Ann Arbor High School, Class of 1924 - 50th Reunion

Sun, 11/24/2024 - 5:19pm

When: June 15, 1974

This recording was conducted on June 15, 1974, at Weber's Restaurant, as part of the I Remember When television series produced by the Ann Arbor Public Library.

Transcript

• [00:00:11] TED TROST: She is here for the 50th anniversary of the class of 1924. She's going to talk to us about those days. Miss Eberbach, are you glad to be here and see some of these former students?
• [00:00:25] LINDA EBERBACH: I think it's absolutely delightful, and I was so pleased to think that they would remember teachers and invite us so graciously.
• [00:00:37] TED TROST: Have you enjoyed your years teaching at Ann Arbor High School?
• [00:00:40] LINDA EBERBACH: Ann Arbor High School teaching was a little different in those days from what I'm sure it is today. We, of course, knew our students probably a little bit better individually, because it was a smaller school. It was a delightful situation. Many of the students would come bouncing in after school and visit with you, and you kind of felt as though you were really part of their life, too.
• [00:01:19] TED TROST: Do you remember any particular incidents about this particular class? Any particular people in this class? Any particular things they did that were good or were a little devilish?
• [00:01:33] LINDA EBERBACH: Well, of course, I don't know that I can pinpoint that kind of thing. I do know that the students that I had, that were in this class, were serious and fun. They really made you feel as though they wanted to learn things, but they also wanted to have them lightened up occasionally. Let's either sew or cook a few fun things.
• [00:02:03] TED TROST: That's great. You're glad that you've been a teacher for 40 years you taught. What subject?
• [00:02:11] LINDA EBERBACH: I taught home economics that is in the home economics department. In those days, we had quite a variation. One of the things, I really, my major was a food. At one time I did run the cafeteria in the high school. I remember Mr. Purfield coming in one time and his children used to eat lunch there. He said to me you know Miss Eberbach, he said, I don't know how you give them such good food at the price you give it to them. I said, because there are some wonderful students that are helping us. One student, I remember, in particular, Mary somebody she later went with the telephone company, and it was a great success, and she used to be my salad girl. They were just works of art, it was a beautiful thing, and I think she belonged to this class.
• [00:03:07] TED TROST: I bet those salads tasted good, too. Listen, one more question, and that is having taught for so many years, what changes do you see now in teaching as compared to earlier days? You mentioned the classes were smaller, but I guess this is another way of saying, is today's student different, do you think?
• [00:03:28] LINDA EBERBACH: I don't know that the personality is really different, but I think that there is a greater freedom, and this is not a safe thing to say at all because I'm not working with the students. I think some of them are very reliable and some of them really recognize it. It's an advantage to go to school. But I think there are some that are not quite as serious about subject matter as they might be. I think there is a difference. I think it's in our whole system, our whole country, there's a liberalism today, be it right or wrong, but you find it in all ages.
• [00:04:19] TED TROST: One last question, if you had to go in teaching again, would you do it?
• [00:04:25] LINDA EBERBACH: That's a difficult question. If I had the same situation that I had back in my teaching years, I think, yes. But I don't know whether I could cope with it now or not. As some of my friends in the teaching field at Pioneer have said to me why Linda, if you were out there now, I don't know what you'd do. You know I had rather a strong arm, I felt when discipline was necessary, but we just exercise a little of it, and we're not overlook it.
• [00:05:08] TED TROST: Well, I can tell you that if I were in your class today, I'd behave.
• [00:05:12] LINDA EBERBACH: I think that's a wonderful way to end.
• [00:05:16] TED TROST: Thank you very much. Tell us about that.
• [00:05:20] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: We had a lot of fun debating against other high school teams. One year, we debated as juniors on the St. Lawrence Seaway and at last did see the thing finally come through. Next year on the ship subsidy and I had too much of that rather than too little.
• [00:05:39] DAVID R. INGLIS: That was the thing that was controversial in those days. Gee, times have changed. Now things are controversial nuclear power and stuff like that, then the arms race, nuclear arms. That didn't exist in those days.
• [00:05:53] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: Not in those days at all.
• [00:05:54] DAVID R. INGLIS: We had to talk about practical things like the St. Lawrence Seaway.
• [00:05:57] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: I recall Earl Dunn, who was a lawyer from Grand Rapids now was a law student and debating coach in the fall of 1922 when we were juniors, and that was on the St. Lawrence Seaway. I was very glad to see the thing come through, and especially to have a chance to do a little work on it when I was working with the State Department back during the war years in preparation for it.
• [00:06:16] DAVID R. INGLIS: You see Bill Bishop has had quite a career since then. State Department, international law and then he bounced right back here to Ann Arbor and lives here as a professor of law.
• [00:06:25] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: Come back to teach here, it always seems good.
• [00:06:27] TED TROST: You're in the law school.
• [00:06:28] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: I'm teaching in the law school, yes. Back in the same old part of the city. Only about half a mile from where the high school used to be over in what's now the Frieze building.
• [00:06:35] TED TROST: Sure.
• [00:06:36] DAVID R. INGLIS: Yeah, and when we were in high school, Bill's dad was the director of the University Library.
• [00:06:44] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: Dave's dad worked in Detroit, used to commute every day back and forth.
• [00:06:48] DAVID R. INGLIS: Well, that's right.
• [00:06:49] TED TROST: That was not, boy commuting in those days, that must have been something.
• [00:06:52] DAVID R. INGLIS: You know how we commuted by Interurban between here and Detroit.
• [00:07:03] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: Trains every hour.
• [00:07:04] DAVID R. INGLIS: Yeah, he walked over to the corner of Packard and Granger, I guess, or Packard and Wells, and like a big street car came along.
• [00:07:14] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: Took him right into Detroit.
• [00:07:17] DAVID R. INGLIS: And went on through Ypsilanti. It took him two hours to get into Detroit.
• [00:07:20] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: Went the other direction to Jackson, Kalamazoo, and Lansing.
• [00:07:27] DAVID R. INGLIS: They talk about we ought to have mass transit, we used to have it. See my dad hadn't gotten around owning a car yet. We didn't have a car in our family when we were in high school. My dad had owned one, he owned a 1902 Oldsmobile just before I was born, and but he and a telephone pole didn't agree who belonged there and the Oldsmobile came to an end. Dad was afraid of them for quite a few years. These new horseless carriages.
• [00:07:53] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: Yes.
• [00:07:56] TED TROST: Dr. Inglis, your field is atomic energy or?
• [00:07:58] DAVID R. INGLIS: Well, I'm a nuclear physicist. I've been a nuclear physicist for a good many years now. I was an atomic physicist when they let me out of here with a doctor's degree in 1931 and taught at Ohio State for a while. But pretty soon, I became a nuclear physicist by 1935, so when the war came along, I had to do some nuclear physics on the bomb stuff. Ever since then, I've been working hard at trying to prevent more bombs from being built and making it less likely that bombs are being used by getting some disarmament into our national policy and I worked hard to do this.
• [00:08:32] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: You did pretty well.
• [00:08:33] DAVID R. INGLIS: No. Look at the mess we're in. I didn't do pretty well.
• [00:08:36] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: Well, you did better. But at least you got a lot of public sentiment on your side of things.
• [00:08:40] DAVID R. INGLIS: Well, that didn't do enough. The only thing we really did was there's no anti-ballistic missile system.
• [00:08:48] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: Yes.
• [00:08:48] DAVID R. INGLIS: There might have been from our efforts.
• [00:08:51] TED TROST: Have you two had an opportunity to see one another? How does it feel to be back [OVERLAPPING]
• [00:08:54] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: We managed to get together from time to time, whenever Dave gets back to Ann Arbor when he's good enough to come and see me.
• [00:08:59] DAVID R. INGLIS: My mother still lives in Ann Arbor at age 98 and.
• [00:09:02] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: Brings him back from time to time.
• [00:09:04] DAVID R. INGLIS: I've been coming back to see her and my sister, Carol and their family for once every year and I never fail to look up Bill [OVERLAPPING] if I can help it.
• [00:09:15] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: I've been back here teaching since 1948. While I was away working in the East for a long time, my father lived on here during that time and lived on until 1955. I had an occasion to come home during the time I was away. Once in a while, we would overlap.
• [00:09:28] TED TROST: Well, now, how does it seem? Some of these people today you haven't seen for a long time.
• [00:09:33] DAVID R. INGLIS: Tom Sunderland there, for example. He looks like Tom Sunderland alright.
• [00:09:37] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: He certainly does.
• [00:09:38] DAVID R. INGLIS: We're all older, but I don't think I've seen him for most of 50 years.
• [00:09:43] TED TROST: He's an attorney, isn't he?
• [00:09:44] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: I see him because of his work for the law school fund here and so forth. He's an attorney who was president United Fruit for a while. I know, some of the people that are around though I have been seeing for the first time and it's sort of amazing to see some of them. I don't think I've seen Tom Neff in at least for a good many years, probably 40 years.
• [00:10:02] DAVID R. INGLIS: The town was so much smaller then. Gosh, I remember. I lived about a mile a little more than a mile from high school. I used to use my bike most of the time. There sometimes it got too slippery to use my bike.
• [00:10:16] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: You'd walk.
• [00:10:17] DAVID R. INGLIS: Yeah, a couple of times, actually, there were sleet storms and I skated to school.
• [00:10:21] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: Yes, I remember you doing that. Skating to school.
• [00:10:25] DAVID R. INGLIS: These Ann Arbor seems, now that I come from Massachusetts, Ann Arbor seems very flat, but we have our little hills up and down, along Washtenaw there. You don't notice them as hills when you drive a car, but when you bicycle.
• [00:10:37] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: When you skate you notice them very much.
• [00:10:40] DAVID R. INGLIS: When you skate you notice them more. Going down a hill on skates is an experience.
• [00:10:43] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: It would be.
• [00:10:44] DAVID R. INGLIS: But that reminds me of the street cars we used to have. Remember we used to have street cars in Ann Arbor.
• [00:10:50] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: They ran until 1925.
• [00:10:51] DAVID R. INGLIS: Those, if you wanted to wait for twenty minutes to get the north car, you could go to high school for most of the way down for a nickel then. But speaking of hills being slippery, on Halloween, we used to like to one of the stunts that I remember most that we did on Halloween was to annoy the street car conductor. There's a place where Lincoln Avenue dips down to Cambridge and then dips up again on the other side. [OVERLAPPING] The car had to stop if there was any passenger at Cambridge. If you gave a good dose of soap, to the rails on both sides of that dip. [OVERLAPPING] He did the passenger to get on there. He had an awful time getting out and that was just great fun for Halloween.
• [00:11:39] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: One of the other things people would do. I won't admit to ever having done it myself, was to get to the back of the street car outside and pull the trolley off. Yes. We doing that all the time, and then the motor man would have to get out and go around, put the trolley on.
• [00:11:54] DAVID R. INGLIS: That was part of the routine at Cambridge Road. If there wasn't a passenger getting on, that could be done also, well. While while the street car was at a potential minimum, as we call it in my business.
• [00:12:04] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: Your business is physics.
• [00:12:05] TED TROST: Well, this has been absolutely delightful. Thank you so much, gentlemen and have a good time today.
• [00:12:11] DAVID R. INGLIS: Oh, we are. It's great to see old friends, it's good.
• [00:12:15] BERNICE STAEBLER MALCOLM: I was thinking of this reunion, but I thought, well, Ann Arbor is so sophisticated. We do that down in Indiana, but Ann Arbor, probably not. I was real thrilled when Elsa Goetz Ordway wrote to me and said, there were some people that would like a 50th reunion. She and Erma Wolf Beuerle and Florence Vogel Kurtz had done just all of this and I wanted to [OVERLAPPING] Oh, Mary Karpinski! Oh yes. Have I forgotten anybody else? Oh thank you. We want to thank them for all the work they've done, just everything and I'm very grateful to them. We'll go back to the secretary and then on down the line of the class officers from there. We'd like to welcome the teachers too [APPLAUSE] .
• [00:13:35] MARY ANNE TROST: We started dividing the responsibilities for our program among the class officers. Another of these, as you may well remember, was David Inglis. Before I ask him to come to introduce the teachers, I want to tell you a little bit about him. He is a professor of Physics at present time, Professor of Physics at the University of Massachusetts, but he's done a great deal, very significant work, I think in the field of nuclear physics. Is that right? I didn't ask him to explain to me because I knew when he did I wouldn't understand and I could get a lot of it confused. But perhaps he'll talk to us a little more about this later on. He has also taught the University of Pittsburgh, Princeton, at Ohio State, at Johns Hopkins, the University of California, the University of Chicago and Grenoble. With that auspicious kind of introduction, I'm going to ask David to introduce our teachers, of whom we have six here. I think one has had to leave earlier.
• [00:14:59] DAVID R. INGLIS: Thank you, Mary Anne. Thank you for reminding me that I'm a class officer. Seems to be the duty that comes with this is the privilege of introducing those of our teachers who were good enough to come and join us in our celebration today. I'm going to ask each of them if ask each to rise when I call a name so that we may refresh our waning memories that way. From the mathematics department, we have here today, Alice Ensminger. {OVERLAPPING] Oh, she's already left? We're sorry. Well, from home economics, Linda Eberbach. [APPLAUSE] and Maud McMullen [APPLAUSE]. Do you know we have with us today, Coach Lou Hollway [APPLAUSE]. From the History department, Helen Brown, who also carries the name Haller. [APPLAUSE]
• [00:16:24] HELEN BROWN HALLER: Wonderful celebration.
• [00:16:33] DAVID R. INGLIS: Well, we're glad to have you with us.
• [00:16:35] HELEN BROWN HALLER: Thank you.
• [00:16:37] DAVID R. INGLIS: Bernice Hannan Barstow, who teaches English and French and I think she's already left, hasn't she? Sorry, she left. I'm glad she could be with us. Well, that's great to be here all together and to have some of those teachers who have struggled so hard to make the class of 1924 what it is [APPLAUSE].
• [00:17:07] MARY ANNE TROST: I don't know if a lady who was Miss Helen Brown in those days remembers trying to teach me eighth grade English and how to spell. My husband can tell her that that was really an accomplishment. I don't think it was ever fully achieved, Miss Haller, but I do better now than I did then [LAUGHTER].
• [00:17:34] HELEN BROWN HALLER: I have no [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER].
• [00:17:35] MARY ANNE TROST: Well, if I remember it was a very, very happy eighth grade experience. I think of some of the other wonderful experiences that we had in domestic science and mathematics and the many really great times that we had. The thing that I remember about Ann Arbor High is this. My children have grown up in New York state and there they study for the regents. What grade you get in the regents is very important. This is so much the goal. But as I remember, our learning in Ann Arbor High School, it was for the joy of doing it. When I think about our class and all the wonderful people that came through it, and their many many achievements, I think we did probably just as well as any of the students today who have so many pressures on them for high achievement and competition. Somebody's asked me or I think my children would say, who was first in your class mother? You know my answer? I have no idea. Maybe was David Inglis, maybe it was Bob Bacher. [OVERLAPPING] It might have been William Bishop [LAUGHTER]. I know it wasn't me. But we didn't have this kind of competitiveness. It was just a wonderful learning experiences. One of the teachers I think of is Miss Hoyle. Is she still living?
• [00:19:21] MALE_1: Yes, she's living in Florida [OVERLAPPING].
• [00:19:24] MARY ANNE TROST: Oh she's living in [OVERLAPPING]
• [00:19:25] FEMALE_1: You ought to mention the other ones of the retired teachers they asked to come but they couldn't.
• [00:19:33] MARY ANNE TROST: Well you know um.
• [00:19:33] FEMALE_1: Lela Duff.
• [00:19:33] MARY ANNE TROST: Pardon?
• [00:19:33] FEMALE_1: Miss Lela Duff.
• [00:19:33] MARY ANNE TROST: Miss Lela Duff. [OVERLAPPING] The Buells are in Grand Rapids this weekend, I think. Miss Lela Duff who wrote a history of Ann Arbor broke her hip and she isn't able to be here. I wonder who remembers Eileen Lamb, who taught Spanish, and I think French. My husband and I were in Forest Hill the other day and we stood at Horatio Chute's grave. Do you remember him? I had him for general science. I imagine most in this class did, because he retired in 1922. He also taught physics. I just shouldn't select any special names. Just as they come to as I'm standing here, it's not fair because they were all such a wonderful faculty that everybody's name should be mentioned. What we want to do now is to read the roll of the class. So many of you are here, if anybody has any comments, what we'd like you to do is to say where you're living anyway. Just tell very briefly something about yourselves so that we can know what has happened in this interim of 50 years. [BACKGROUND] Pardon? Mary, we mustn't tell all. [LAUGHTER] But just to tell a few of the things at least. We also have some letters, and at first I was very tempted, in talking with this marvelous group of people that engineered this reunion, to want to read all the letters, but I really don't think as I've looked at them, I don't think we should attempt it, but we could put them out here. We talked about putting on the bulletin board. Then if you're interested in reading them, because they are interesting, they would be available to you. The first person in the class. it's so high for me, is Alice Anderson, and we heard from her. She's Alice Anderson Hanrahan. She's lives now in [INAUDIBLE], New York, a neighbor of mine, which is Rochester. Then there was Helen Anderson. We didn't hear from her. Steele Bailey. If anyone knows anything about these people and would like to inform us, we welcome the information. Helen Ballinger, whose married name, if she was married, and address we don't have. Kenneth Barker. We did not hear from. Elizabeth Barrett replied. I believe. But do you remember hearing from her?
• [00:23:01] FEMALE_1: [INAUDIBLE]
• [00:23:06] MARY ANNE TROST: She was going to another 50th anniversary, is that it? But we did hear from her. Josephine Beckwith.
• [00:23:16] FEMALE_1: We couldn't find her.
• [00:23:18] MARY ANNE TROST: That's right. Harold Benz, and I believe he's here. Harold, will you stand? [APPLAUSE] Good to see you. We'd like any, you're living in Ann Arbor, you're living?
• [00:23:37] HAROLD BENZ: Am I supposed to say a few words?
• [00:23:38] MARY ANNE TROST: Yes, we'd like to hear from you.
• [00:23:40] HAROLD BENZ: I went on to University. One of the things I think I've accomplished that I had three sons, and all three of them got master's degrees from in phys ed and one has a law degree with it. I've spent 44 years here in the general insurance business and it's been very pleasant, and it seemed funny not to see many of you folks around.
• [00:24:03] MARY ANNE TROST: But you're living in Ann Arbor? Norma Beuerle Faber. She's here. Where is she?
• [00:24:11] NORMA BEUERLE FABER: Norma Beuerle Faber, living in Ann Arbor [INAUDIBLE] married, housewife
• [00:24:20] MARY ANNE TROST: Great. You're one of the fortunate ones that lives right in town where everybody eventually comes to Ann Arbor we find. Bertha Borton. Louise Burt.
• [00:24:38] FEMALE_1: Stand on the chair.
• [00:24:39] MARY ANNE TROST: She's here.
• [00:24:40] LOUISE BURT: I once was chemist. Married had three children, boy, girl, have six grandchildren. I switched to language teaching. I lived in Florida seven years and there I taught German and French and Adult Education. I just left Florida and live in Ashtabula, Ohio. [OVERLAPPING] I wasted a lot of my life. A psychiatrist kind of ruined my life, but I've gotten over them. [LAUGHTER] I'm happy to be here.
• [00:25:26] MARY ANNE TROST: Tell us about yourself.
• [00:25:26] DOROTHY CLARK BRAND: With my husband, Jim Brand, and we came from Solvang, California, where we live to be here today. We moved our summer vacation up a few days so we could be with you today. I've been doing newspaper work most of my life. Thank you. I'm glad to be here. [APPLAUSE].
• [00:25:48] FEMALE_1: [INAUDIBLE]
• [00:25:48] MARY ANNE TROST: I'm coming to him right now. You're right. I did skip him. I'm having a little trouble. The lighting isn't too good. This is in my face, and I have bifocals. I'd have done better fifty years ago. Vagn Christensen, we didn't hear from, but I think.
• [00:26:09] MALE_2: Married, three grandchildren. Now retired from business here in Ann Arbor [APPLAUSE]
• [00:26:23] MALE_3: I think it's one main point that hasn't been mentioned yet, even to the most casual observers, so it's readily recognizable. This crowd represents the roaring twenties. [LAUGHTER].
• [00:26:34] MARY ANNE TROST: Well, we survived. [BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER].
• [00:26:37] FEMALE_1: [OVERLAPPING] Stand on a chair. [OVERLAPPING]
• [00:26:37] GERTRUDE DIETZEL SMITH: I've lived in Ann Arbor all my life. My father had a shoe business before I was born, and my main interest is shoe business. After my father retired, my husband and I took over the business. I had just one son. After my husband passed away, my son took over the business. My main interest is still shoe business and I still go down to the shoe store every Saturday. [APPLAUSE].
• [00:27:33] ANNA DUNLAP BUTLER: But I haven't heard that name for forty years. I live in Lansing and have for a long time and because it's raining today, no that isn't true. But anyway, of course, it did rain because my husband came with me. He was going to play golf. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] We have one daughter and two grandsons. [APPLAUSE]
• [00:27:54] MELVIN G. FIEGEL: I live in Ann Arbor. Retiree retired as senior vice president of the National Bank and Trust Company of Ann Arbor. Still keeping busy with related financial activities. I married a great gal from Columbus, Ohio. I have one son and three grandchildren. [APPLAUSE]
• [00:28:32] ELSA GOETZ ORDWAY: My husband is here [INAUDIBLE] a sesquicentennial tie. He is involved in the celebration in Dexter. After that date [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER]. We were both employed to the University, and we moved down to a farm in 1935 where we still are. We have two adopted children who are both married. [OVERLAPPING] dog that [INAUDIBLE] afraid of. Good watchdog. [OVERLAPPING].
• [00:29:09] MARY ANNE TROST: Well, Elsa is one of the who has done so beautifully in bringing this group together. [OVERLAPPING] Pardon?
• [00:29:16] FEMALE_1: She did the flowers.
• [00:29:18] MARY ANNE TROST: She did the flowers. [LAUGHTER] Good, Mary.
• [00:29:20] PAUL G. GREENE: Lived in Ann Arbor since 1920. Just retired this last winter from construction business and taking life easy.
• [00:29:32] MARY ANNE TROST: Good. Thank you, Paul.
• [00:29:39] RUTH HOHLENKAMP RASH: Ralph Rash for 49 years. I'm just a housewife. I have, we have, one daughter and three lovely grandchildren, [INAUDIBLE]. [APPLAUSE].
• [00:29:53] MARY ANNE TROST: Thank you.
• [00:29:54] DAVID R. INGLIS: Ticket as a physicist from the graduate school here in 31. I went down to Ohio State where I picked up a charming gal. May I introduce Betty. [LAUGHTER] [APPLAUSE].
• [00:30:09] MARY ANNE TROST: I'm hoping we'll have a few remarks. [LAUGHTER].
• [00:30:41] FEMALE_2: [INAUDIBLE]
• [00:30:41] FEMALE_3: I worked for the insurance Department.
• [00:30:45] MARY ANNE TROST: In Lansing?
• [00:30:46] FEMALE_3: Yes. We have two sons and one daughter, and our grandchildren. Our son has three sons, and my daughter has two daughters. [LAUGHTER].
• [00:30:56] MARY ANNE TROST: Very nice, expanding family.
• [00:30:59] ANNE MAIER MAST: [INAUDIBLE] university, taught in Detroit for four years, and I'm now living on Mast Road two miles north of Dexter. I have four stepchildren, and two daughters of our own, and three grandchildren.
• [00:31:20] MARY ANNE TROST: Very good. [APPLAUSE]
• [00:31:21] ANNE MAIER MAST: and I managed to bring them along today.
• [00:31:23] MARY ANNE TROST: Good. [APPLAUSE] Russell.
• [00:31:28] LAURETTA MARSH RUSSELL: [INAUDIBLE] working at the National Bank and Trust Company for 24 and a half years, retired in 70, and am enjoying my retirement.
• [00:31:37] MARY ANNE TROST: Great.[APPLAUSE]
• [00:31:37] MILDRED MARSHALL LARMEE: Graduation of high school. I started working at the old Farmer Mechanic [INAUDIBLE] fifteen years. After that I married and have two children. Two grandchildren living in Ann Arbor.
• [00:32:02] MARY ANNE TROST: One of the lucky ones.[APPLAUSE]
• [00:32:02] ZETA MEYER HUTCHINSON: After I graduated high school I went to Michigan State Normal for two years. It's Eastern State now. For 25 years, I worked at the Payroll Department of University of Michigan, and I retired in 1968. [INAUDIBLE]
• [00:32:19] MARY ANNE TROST: Very good. [APPLAUSE].
• [00:32:21] TOM A. NEFF: I've lived in Ann Arbor all my life. I have a wonderful wife. I married into the Malloy family, which is a golfing family. I have a wonderful daughter. I have four grandchildren, one girl and three boys. Two boys are very much interested in hockey. They're very good, but I want them to get into football. I wish Hollway would get out of retirement come back and coach with them.[LAUGHTER] [APPLAUSE]
• [00:32:49] RUTH NICHOLS WEBER EDMAN: Ruth Nichols Weber and now it is Edman. Between Mr. Edman and I, we have eight children, four children, ten grandchildren, and one great grandson. [APPLAUSE].
• [00:33:16] MARY ANNE TROST: Wonderful.
• [00:33:18] THEODORA NICKELS HERBERT: Was a retired engineer. We have two adopted children and one of our own and six grandchildren. Well, what else do I say? [LAUGHTER].[APPLAUSE].
• [00:33:35] LOIS ORDWAY FOHL: I taught in Battle Creek, then I married a man from Pennsylvania. A week after I was married I knew someday I'd live in Pennsylvania. We were in Lansing. We're both retired and now we have a little farm ten miles north of Gettysburg and our names in the Gettysburg phone book, so anytime you go through why you give us a ring. We have lots of space for house trailers or extra bedrooms anytime you wanna stop. [OVERLAPPING]
• [00:34:00] MARY ANNE TROST: That sounds great.
• [00:34:05] LOIS ORDWAY FOHL: Two grandchildren and granddaughter was at Interlochen last year. Both children are in the youth band at the University of Michiganl. [APPLAUSE]
• [00:34:49] MARY ANNE TROST: That's really great.
• [00:34:57] JOHN L. RAGLAND: [INAUDIBLE] law school [INAUDIBLE] I've been in Ann Arbor ever since. This is kind of a double celebration. Three days ago my wife and I [INAUDIBLE] 50th anniversary.
• [00:34:57] MARY ANNE TROST: Great. Yeah, very nice.
• [00:34:57] [OVERLAPPING]
• [00:34:57] MARY ANNE TROST: Well, we had a little competition on that one. Robertson. Apparently, a letter was sent to him? It was the notice and it was heard from. [OVERLAPPING] Where is he?
• [00:35:17] RUTH SCHAEFER GROSS: I lived in Ann Arbor all the first six months of my life. I worked at the Ann Arbor bank for twelve years and [INAUDIBLE] bond and insurance company for six. Now I'm just a plain housewife.
• [00:35:30] MARY ANNE TROST: Great. I find that's the nicest thing in the end. [LAUGHTER]
• [00:35:33] HAROLD R. SCHENK: [OVERLAPPING] I'm a retired building contractor. This is my wife Julia, and I've got one son. [APPLAUSE]
• [00:35:50] BERNICE STAEBLER MALCOLM: Rusty's wife. He was a surgeon, particularly women's surgery, and was president of the Indiana Cancer Society. As far as children are concerned, we had a scrapbook, and Tom Sunderland would tease us, I think when we were seniors in high school, cut out a little redhead on a bar of Ivory soap and put Rusty junior on it. And you know we had a boy, Rusty Jr., and he had red hair. [LAUGHTER] And then we had twin boys, besides.
• [00:36:34] [OVERLAPPING]
• [00:36:35] ERNA STEINKE JAHNKE: My husband Art and I are connected with music in Ann Arbor, he as a soloist and I as an organist. We have two children, a boy and a girl, and five grandchildren. They live within thirty miles of Ann Arbor, so we see them real often.
• [00:36:51] MARY ANNE TROST: You're lucky. [APPLAUSE] Tell us about yourself, Tom.
• [00:36:58] THOMAS E. SUNDERLAND: Well, I went on from high school through the law school here. I've been basically a lawyer all my life. I practiced in New York City from 1930 till the time of the war. Four years there, came back and moved to Chicago as general counsel of the Standard Oil of Indiana and their headquarters in Chicago. I moved in 1960 to Boston, where I was president chairman of the board of United Fruit Company, and I retired a couple of years ago. Now live in Arizona. Delighted to be here. [APPLAUSE]
• [00:37:33] MARY ANNE TROST: That's great. [OVERLAPPING]
• [00:37:34] THOMAS E. SUNDERLAND: My mother and father when they were in Ann Arbor High School.
• [00:37:36] MARY ANNE TROST: Yesterday.
• [00:37:37] THOMAS E. SUNDERLAND: My grandmother taught in Ann Arbor High School back in 1880s. My family moved to Ann Arbor exactly 100 years ago, 1874.
• [00:37:50] MARY ANNE TROST: 1874.
• [00:37:50] THOMAS E. SUNDERLAND: There's been a member of the Sunderland family here ever since. [LAUGHTER] [APPLAUSE].
• [00:37:53] MALE_4: He was afraid that also Bill Bishop all A's. Ann Arbor high school too.
• [00:38:10] MARY ANNE TROST: I got you. That's great.
• [00:38:11] JONATHAN A. TAYLOR: I spent 50 years studying and practicing architecture around Detroit. We now live in, well in the summer at Island lake or at Crystal Lake, Northern Michigan. In the winter at Key Biscayne in Florida.
• [00:38:26] MARY ANNE TROST: Very nice life. [APPLAUSE] It should. Jonah, are you? I hope so. Kenny Tice?
• [00:38:35] KENNY TICE: Here. Federal government. Retired from maintenance, upkeep, and repair headquarters of Commander in Chief, United States. I retired in 1972. I married the first lady lawyer of Kalamazoo, Michigan somebody to keep me out of trouble. [LAUGHTER] We're now putting three grandsons through school. It's a great pleasure to be here. [APPLAUSE]
• [00:39:04] MARY ANNE TROST: Great to have you.
• [00:39:09] KENNY TICE: I got to retire a lot better that I had a lot of heck on the sand. [LAUGHTER] I was awarded the second highest award the Navy can give a civilian. [APPLAUSE]
• [00:39:23] FEMALE_4: [INAUDIBLE] I graduated from University in 28, was married in 30. Acted as a psychiatric social worker [INAUDIBLE]. Worked, had three sons, went into teaching, got a master's, retired. Have three sons, nine grandchildren, lost my husband two years ago. Live in Mount Clemens.
• [00:39:49] MARY ANNE TROST: It sounds as if you've had a full life. You're lucky.
• [00:39:53] MARY: Mary Kurtz, have three children and a grandchild.
• [00:39:56] MARY ANNE TROST: Great.
• [00:39:57] MARY: I'm a house wife now. [APPLAUSE]
• [00:39:58] FEMALE_5: In 1934, and he retired a year ago. We spend our winters in Florida, in Lakeland, Florida. We have two sons, a married son in Richmond Indiana. Robert is his name. We have a Bachelor son in Anaheim, California. We have two granddaughters.
• [00:40:18] MARY ANNE TROST: Very nice. [APPLAUSE].
• [00:40:21] MALE_5: practicing law in Ann Arbor. I did get out of town long enough to find a wife in the west. She's with me today.
• [00:40:30] That question. [APPLAUSE]
• [00:40:31] FEMALE_6: I'm 44 years. Two sons and three grandchildren. I hope to go to Scotland during the month of August to spend time with my son and with his family.
• [00:40:43] MARY ANNE TROST: Where is he?
• [00:40:44] FEMALE_6: Well, they have been living in London, but they're going to spend their August in Scotland. That's what I was hoping. [OVERLAPPING].
• [00:40:51] MARY ANNE TROST: Great. That's wonderful. [OVERLAPPING].
• [00:40:52] LAURANCE J. VAN TUYL: In the engineering a way from Ann Arbor until 1943, a lot of places. Came back at that time. I spent a few years with the University teaching. Following that, I was in both construction and engineering work in Ann Arbor, and I'm still in engineering work.
• [00:41:10] MARY ANNE TROST: Very good. [APPLAUSE] I want to tell you that she, and I'm going to ask her to name her committee are really the people that are responsible for getting us here today. It's just marvelous. I think we should all give that group a hand. [APPLAUSE]
• [00:41:27] ERMA WOLF BEUERLE: Mary Karpinski Casey, Florence Vogel Kurtz, and Elsa Goetz Ordway, and we're not really responsible. Mary and I thought Christmas time. She said, now we're going to have our 50th anniversary of our graduation. You suppose you could do something about it. I asked Elsa and Elsa asked Mary, and then we asked Florence. That's the way [INAUDIBLE][OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] But really, it's been a pleasure to do it. It's kind of fun to get all these letters back and you don't know how we've enjoyed hearing for them all. Now as for myself, I've stayed in Ann Arbor all my life. I'm soon going to celebrate my 50th year of working. I work two days a week in a law office [INAUDIBLE] all stuff. [LAUGHTER] I think we're very fortunate when we can celebrate 50th anniversaries and I've enjoyed [OVERLAPPING].
• [00:42:46] MARY ANNE TROST: Well, it's just great. I think not only [APPLAUSE] Erma's own fine qualities, but also her experience in the law office I think I brought a lot of good organization, and logical kinds of conclusions to this.
• [00:43:06] CORA ZEEB: I taught school for 38 years, retired and now I live on a farm. [APPLAUSE].
• [00:43:17] WILLIAM WARNER BISHOP JR.: January of 24, saw that the class of 1924 thought I belonged to the class of 23. Class of 23 thought I belonged to the class of 24. [LAUGHTER] One advantage is I had so many good friends in both classes. I went on to law school at the same time as [INAUDIBLE] over here. Worked out in the East, including eight years in the legal advisor's office of the State Department. Married a woman lawyer who was working for the State Department, who unfortunately could not be here today. Came back in 1948 to teach here. I have one daughter who's a clinical psychologist. [APPLAUSE].
• [00:43:52] MARY ANNE TROST: Eberbach.
• [00:43:52] LINDA EBERBACH: All I wanted to say was that this has been a delightful here and out of all of you. I always knew it was a great class, and now I know that it was the greatest class ever. Congratulations to all of you, and thank you very much. I'm sure I'm saying this for my colleagues. You are most gracious to include us today. It's been a wonderful wonderful experience. I hope you'll have a 60th and invite us again. [LAUGHTER] [APPLAUSE].
• [00:44:41] MARY ANNE TROST: I hope we will too. I hope we will all [BREAK] agile, and youthful, and bright, and interested as teachers that we have here today. I think it's just really just marvelous. [APPLAUSE]. I would like to say among our other
• [00:45:08] FEMALE_7: [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] I know, but we didn't graduate from Pioneer either. [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING]
• [00:45:09] MARY ANNE TROST: We've forgotten how divided, Mary. Well, I think maybe we could look at it this way. As a chairman, I shouldn't be trying to influence anyway. I'm thinking that 50 years from now, for instance, if Huron High has a scholarship, I don't know if they divide it between the two schools or not. But what do you think? We have an attorney back here?
• [00:45:50] JOHN L. RAGLAND: [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] Perry Scholarship Fund [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING]
• [00:46:10] MARY ANNE TROST: You would suggest that we would add our contribution to the existing scholarship fund, is that it?
• [00:46:19] FEMALE_8: What's the name, please? [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING].
• [00:46:28] MARY ANNE TROST: Spell it. Well, what do you wish? Tom?
• [00:46:39] THOMAS E. SUNDERLAND: [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE] Raising hands to see who wants to go to the old high school and who to both high schools [OVERLAPPING].
• [00:46:49] ERMA WOLF BEUERLE: It's just been brought up that we have a third high school, Community High School
• [00:46:49] MARY ANNE TROST: Yeah, that's right. Erma's just pointing out that now we have three high schools in town, one is the new Community High School, Four, and Greenhills. Yes.
• [00:47:05] MALE_6: [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] [BACKGROUND].
• [00:47:12] MARY ANNE TROST: No, it's just going to be a memorial scholarship for the class in 1924. I think that probably is what you have in mind. I don't know if there's any specification as to whom it should go. We hadn't really talked about that and perhaps should have given that some thought. Alright, let me take a vote. Yes?
• [00:47:34] FEMALE_9: [INAUDIBLE]
• [00:47:45] to the scholarship fund. We will need a vote because we must make or contribute. Eliminate that.
• [00:48:16] MARY ANNE TROST: Tom, any comments?
• [00:48:29] THOMAS E. SUNDERLAND: I don't really care, but it seems to me that we were talking about a scholarship for the old Ann Arbor high school. [OVERLAPPING] I would like to know how many would like to do it that way.
• [00:48:40] MARY ANNE TROST: You ready to vote. I don't know anything about protocol, but I do know. I just say vote. [LAUGHTER] Those in favor of having our money go to the old Ann Arbor High School, that is to Pioneer, please raise your hands. Those who think it should be divided between the two schools, raise your hands. It looks the majority, [LAUGHTER] you're not big enough. Then I think the decision would be that this scholarship would go to Pioneer High School. [APPLAUSE] [OVERLAPPING] I think that Perry scholarship is a very specific allocation of some sort and perhaps our class, since it's our 50th anniversary, we'd like some distinction in terms of our contribution. Is that the feeling of the group? [APPLAUSE] Let them know we're still around.
• [00:49:52] LOUIS H. HOLLWAY: It really is a real pleasure for me to be here and it isn't very often that I have the opportunity to thank Ann Arbor for all the kindness that have shown me in all years I've been here, but I want you people to know that I certainly do appreciate the support that you have given me over the number of years that I've been here, and it's really a lot of fun. Ann Arbor has been very good to me and I want you people to know that. I can tell you a lot about my family, but you've heard so much about that. Now Florence here has three sons, all are graduate from the University of Michigan, in fact, she has a grandson who is going to be a member of the University of Michigan State law. As far as my side is concerned, I have an announcement that probably is not for publication. My grandson. Mike Hollway who graduated from the University this June, is going to be back here to do his graduate work. He's going to be a member of Bo Schembechler's coaching staff. [APPLAUSE] The announcement on that. I don't know but I thought you might be interested in that and then besides that grandchildren, I have a granddaughter who will be enrolled in physical education, the University of Michigan this fall. So actually, Florence's family and my family are going to be pretty well represented. Thanks again, folks, really for the great support you've given me. I'm glad that I can say this. All your speeches have been academic and actually physical education has a part to make academic work. Actually, your physical education program, history, by the way, you want to hear the history of Ann Arbor High School Athletics, you should listen to WPAG who had a twenty minute program on two weeks ago and told you about the athletics, Ann Arbor High School. Ann Arbor High School, probably is the first high school in the Midwest or even in the state to play the game of football. Now, that's an interesting fact that you people should know. I played against Ann Arbor High School, 1908. You know where the game is played in Burns Park? [LAUGHTER] You remember when Burns Park was the old fairgrounds? That's where we played.
• [00:52:49] FEMALE_10: It cost ten cents.
• [00:52:51] LOUIS H. HOLLWAY: Pardon? Ten cents to see the game? [OVERLAPPING] That was a lot of money in those days. [LAUGHTER] Thanks again, folks. Very kind of you. [APPLAUSE]
• [00:53:08] DAVID R. INGLIS: I drifted into science right out of Ann Arbor High and I suppose it had something to do with the teachers we had there then learning Math from [INAUDIBLE] Wines and people of that caliber, learning physics from Mr. Buell, at the beginning of physics we got in high school. It was just too late to get Mr. Chute he retired the year before, but that was a fine start I got and perhaps what I met in Amherst College of the following year after we graduated was another push in that direction, but as I look back on high school, I think one of the most influential people for me, was Edith Hoyle, who was teaching history and civics and giving us a broad view of the world as it has been in the world as it is developing. Somehow, I think a slightly broader and perhaps more liberal view than we were getting from many others in those days. Somehow I feel that that influenced me in my further career more than anything else of my experiences in Ann Arbor High, certainly more, for example, and the very endearing efforts of Ms. Breed in trying to teach me Latin that sort of thing. [LAUGHTER] Which Latin and the Greek that came on top of it somehow vanished, along with other memories of those days. Of course, I'm now going on into Civics had something to do with the people who were at the University when I went on in the graduate school here and for a decade or so after that, things were pretty pure in science, pure pursuit of the secrets of nature with very small stipends for what we had to do. No national supportive experimental physics or anything of that sort, and life was simple and pure and we taught our students.
• [00:55:28] FEMALE_11: Not very [INAUDIBLE] maybe in science.
• [00:55:28] DAVID R. INGLIS: Mary, you never agreed with me on these things register. [LAUGHTER] Over the great. There came the war and that influenced various ones of us in different ways. I had drifted from atomic physics to nuclear physics in the mid 30s. Being a nuclear physicist, I found myself whisked off to Los Alamos to work on that vague possibility that there might be a new and greater weapon. Some of us were rather surprised that we were successful that that darn thing would work and immediately again, I'm wondering, gosh, what's the world going to do with this? This changes the whole picture so completely. We can see that it's going to go from our little nuclear firecracker into much bigger things, and people are going to get a hold of this ball and run with it the way timing if could. It was another ball so on. [LAUGHTER] We just wondered, where is it all going to lead to anyhow? Man knows how to destroy himself now. Will he, or can it be prevented and so along with a lot of pure physics since the since the war, I find myself bound up with the questions of cannot the country get more interested than it seems to be in calling some kind of a halt to this arms race, getting together with the other side, going further than we have in trying to get the other side to join us in some kinds of arms limitation. We've tried lots of things in that direction and I haven't gotten very far. I think we've had a little influence on perhaps.
• [00:57:22] FEMALE_12: Your honorarium [INAUDIBLE]
• [00:57:26] DAVID R. INGLIS: Honorarium is money, Mary [LAUGHTER] .
• [00:57:34] DAVID R. INGLIS: Well, yes, they did, along with an honorary, they gave me a little honorarium that paid Betty's and my fare out to the midwest and that's how we got to be here from Massachusetts. [LAUGHTER]. Yes, it was a little faculty role. Always had to dress up commencements with it with an honorary degree, now and then I was the only one. I had to look sit in the ceremony as before all those kids. It's interesting to see how the kids come up through education these days compared with our days, somehow, I think they have many more distractions. There's more to be learned and I don't think they learn it as well because there's too much to learn too many distractions. I think we came through in a very fortunate time. I'm trying to think, how in the world are we going to deflect this thing from too much nuclear. Nuclear is a fine thing that's placed, but we've got to take it easy and do it safely. I've even come to the point of view after having worked for 20 years at the Argonne National Laboratory, which in my weekly honorarium came from the AEC. I've come to the conclusion that the AEC is on the wrong track of going into nuclear quite so fast before we know how to do it right, and that there are other ways to do this thing better. Namely this thing of giving us our energy sources that particularly when we think of developing techniques which we're going to export to other countries, better things to export than the capability of manufacturing plutonium in every country in the world. We see that in the headlines this morning that the president is promoting this proliferation of nuclear power plants to other nations and I think instead, we should be exporting refined techniques that we haven't yet developed shouldn't neglect, not because it can't be done. Solar energy, and don't think that I'm Don Quixote, windmills. I'm not knocking them down, I'm trying to build them up. I thoroughly believe that things like windmills, great fleets of enormous windmills floating off from the grand banks off of our coast of Massachusetts, for example, where they'd be out of sight and out of harm and feeding hydrogen ashore. These are grand ideas. Why haven't they been developed? Because back there in my first days at the Argonne lab, we were so enthusiastic about nuclear power. We thought it was going to be the answer to everything and research and everything else was given up. It all went to nuclear and now it's pretty hard to turn that whole thing around. I've been trying to do something about turning it around. Well, now of Betty and I live in Massachusetts, we've moved there five years ago. First thing when I got there, I felt that it was a shame that college students aren't learning anything about all these problems of the nuclear challenge, the challenge of getting something out of nuclear if we can without having it kill us. The social problems associated with it, the radiation problems, and all the rest. I wrote a book called Nuclear Energy Its Physics and Social Challenge. If you want to learn something about this starting with the ABCs, I recommend it. Gee I'm modest, am I not? [LAUGHTER]. Well, we are enjoying very much living in the east. In addition to our house in Amherst, we have one up in the White Mountains, where we spend our vacations, winter and summer. It's great skiing up there in the winter and great swimming in the summer and we're going up there next week to start the summer part of the cycle. Gee it's great to be here. Glad [INAUDIBLE]. [APPLAUSE]
• [01:01:30] THOMAS E. SUNDERLAND: Almost had it made. I was practically out of the door. I have an airplane to catch, and I was within two feet of getting out when Mary Anne caught me. I can't be at a 50th reunion without remembering a little thing I heard some years ago. I didn't think it was very funny then. It seems less funny to me now. But the man who went to his 50th reunion, came back and said, my God, my classmates are getting old and said, a lot of them couldn't even recognize me. For those of you who couldn't recognize me, I like to recite what was alluded to a minute ago. I stood all of five feet two and weighed all of 103 pounds when I graduated from Ann Arbor High School and if it's a pure coincidence of anybody who hasn't seen me since would know who I was, but I'm delighted to be here. My little stint in this world has taken me around a great deal. I think I said briefly in New York, Chicago, and Boston before going to Arizona. My duties have been rather widespread, and for many years, I practically commuted across the Atlantic in getting the Standard Oil company into parts of Western Europe and then when I was head of the United Fruit Company, I was literally all over the world. I don't know how many million miles I've traveled, but I once counted up, and it was well in excess of three million. [MUSIC].
• [01:06:33] MARY ANNE TROST: Well, we kept our promise to Ann Arbor High, didn't we after 50 years? [BACKGROUND] [OVERLAPPING]. [MUSIC].