Says Pullman Men Drink Beer

Paul E. Herme.", a news and stationery dealer in Pullman, who had vvorked for siz years in the Pullman shops, was the iiext witness. Mr. Hernies said that he, persoually, had no fault to ñnd with the Pullman. He left the towu when the 1886 Btrike ociured and did not go back until ie was over. Witnesa has a nine-room house iu Pullman for which he pays $35 a month. He did not think a similar house could be had iu Chicago, Kensing■ ton or Koseland for the same rent. "I think if many of the men would leave beer and whisky alone they would be better off," said Mr. Hernies. "The Kensington beer wagons are passing through Pullman in a stream all the time." Tbiswas especially the case on pay days. He continued: "The Kensingtou saloonkeepers, 10Ö or more, have nearly all becoma ricb, and all th money comes from the Pullman employés. On the other Land, maiiy of the men ar avlns. Wheu I was working ia the Pullman shops at $3 a day I could put away $5 a month. Wüou I got a little more I could save $7.50 a month." Witness thought th Pullman employés would compare favorably with the same number of men In Chicago. As fio tbe coinplaints of the foremen, thts was always the case; whether wages were high r low there were some who would always tjrumble at something. L. H. Johnson, a hardware dealer at Pullman, was queationed very closely by one of th cornmissioners concerning his lease. He stated that his is the only hardware store in Pullman, but says he has no iftgreement with the Pullman company by vwhich competition in his line of busines3 ,is kept out. He has a written lease of his tore building, but there is a clause in It by which the company can oust him on Cen days' nolice. ïhe company had reduced his store rent voluntarily, but not U house reut. He did uot kuow ibinn aboat comparatire rent. He thought the absence of a sewer systeni in Ki-nsington made a material differeace as to dusirability of residence. W. K. MoKay, a Mail reporter, and B. H. Atwell, a News reporter, testifled aa to rioting, bat added nothins new. The News man charged much of the turbuleuce to the deputy marshals. Axel Lundgren said Umt in all his thirteeu years' service for the Pullman oompany he liad no complaint as to wages or treatnient. Fire Marshal Fitzgerald appeared next with a record book and a copy of the reporta which showed the following losses ia inceodiary fires durlng the strike: One hundred and sixty-six freight cars, eight switch tovrera, six freight depots, flve switch ahanties and one hay barn. "I attended uearly all these fireg mygelf," explained the marshal. "The only flres we saw kindled were by boys, the oidest of them uot more than 11.