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Eli Goes to PAX, and Lives to Tell the Tale

by eli

This past weekend, I attended the Penny Arcade Expo. It was absolutely incredible. There were PC, console, and tabletop game tournaments, panel discussions, an exhibitor room (think E3 lite), concerts, freeplay, prizes, and the OMEGATHON II.

I went to see how truly large game tournaments are run, specifically to get some ideas on how to handle our recent influx of new players, and to do a little of what adults call 'networking'. Also, to play some games. Read on for complete details.

Friday, I arrived in Seattle, checked in, and joined the stream of geeks flowing up the street toward the Meydenbauer Center in downtown Bellevue. The doors were supposed to open to preregistrants at 3:00, and it was about 2:50. There was a line stretching down the street and around the block, past a Dairy Queen that must have thought it died and went to heaven. A guy next to me waiting to cross the street looked at the line and said, "I'm glad I preregistered," thinking it meant he got to skip the line. He figured out soon enough that the line was only for people who had preregistered, and hiked back to the end of the line somewhere around Vancouver.

While waiting for the doors to open, I made my first PAX discovery: the Nintendo DS becomes something truly awesome in a DS-rich environment. There were pictochat rooms going all the time, no matter where you were... in the line, in the theater, at lunch, even during the concerts. Pictochat became a sort of live commentary track for the whole event, with people getting downloadable games together on the fly (Meteos was most common). You could just put your DS into download mode and see 2 or 3 games people were offering for wireless play. I played Meteos, Bomberman DS, Advance Wars, and something in Japanese I later figured out was Puyo Puyo Fever. You could also see many people 'petting' or making baby talk to their newly-acquired Nintendogs.

I registered for the Super Smash Brothers and Mario Kart Double Dash tournaments... by writing my name on a piece of paper. It was so quaint and refreshing... given the way we IT geeks do things, I can honestly say it never before occurred to me. However, they have some approaches at PAX that we really can't take at AADL-GT Tournaments, for example, they close registration completely up to an hour before the event begins to give them time to do the data entry. If you miss the registration deadline, that's that. Also, most tournaments are pool-based, single-elimination, reducing greatly the need for the kind of record-keeping we do during a tournament.

For example, for Super Smash Brothers, each of the 24 stations was assigned a 16-person pool. After filling the empty pool spots with standby players, they made brackets for each pool and players played a 1v1, best 2 out of 3, 4-stock, 6-minute time limit match, with items set to low, some banned items, and some banned stages. Only the winner of the pool advanced to the next round. I got eliminated in my first match against a master Ness player. I was DK first, then Link, and both times I had him down to his last life when I lost.

Friday Night's concert, after a showing of the 1989 Fred Savage and Super Mario Bros. 3 Vehicle The Wizard, included The Videogame Pianist, Transformers-obsessed hiphop band Optimus Rhyme, and the The NESkimos. Lovecraftian Rock Band The Darkest of the Hillside Thickets canceled at the last minute.

Saturday morning, the exhibit room opened, and we stumbled in to find a real, genuine, E3-style Nintendo Booth, with 10 DS stations, 4 GBA stations, 6 small gamecube stations and 2 Huge ones. All sorts of unreleased games were playable, including Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess! It was the E3 demo, and while I love the Wind Waker style, the new realistic Zelda look will undoubtedly be less reviled by the legions of 'mature' rabid gamers with poor taste who think that bright colors are only acceptable for children. Regardless, the game is naturally amazing. Also playable were Super Mario Baseball and Super Mario Strikers (Soccer), both of which are an absolute blast and are outstanding additions to the Mario Sports lineup. Advance Wars: Under Fire for Gamecube is cool, 3rd person squad-based cartoony warfare, and looks fun, but very very different from the Advance Wars formula. If you like Advance Wars, Fire Emblem (the game Marth and Roy are from) for Gamecube is on the way; it's fantasy turn-based tactics battles, very in-depth, but a bit dry. Mario Kart DS was playable and is absolutely great, featuring great new tracks and best-of-breed weapons; rotating shells, the banana train, and jumping are all back, and the graphics look great on the DS's top screen. The lower screen shows you a zoomed-in overhead view that you can use to dodge shells! You can play 8-player wireless, and rumors persist that you'll be able to play over the internet via Wifi. One guy even said there would be Halo-style stat tracking and ladders, but I think he just made that up. We'll see.

In contrast to Nintendo's booth, Sony had 4 toys-r-us-style kiosks and a couple of card tables, and Microsoft had two tables and a single big TV. Ubisoft actually had a better XBOX booth than Microsoft, showing off some new combat games, a King Kong game that was fun but with a maddening fixed camera, and appearances by the Fragdolls.

Also exhibiting were NCSoft, best known for City of Heros, and Turbine, whose Dungeons and Dragons Online was a fan favorite, especially with all the tabletop gamers in attendance. The Army was there pushing America's Army, complete with Humvee, and Flying Lab Software was exhibiting their new MMORPG, Pirates of the Burning Sea.

On Saturday, we got to watch Gabe and Tycho make Monday's strip after a 'pitch your game idea' panel with several industry veterans. The best idea to come out of that session was probably "France France Revolution". Saturday was also the Mario Kart Double Dash team tournament. They had the 24 stations broken up into 6 4-station Lans, splitscreen, so they had the capacity for 96 simultaneous players driving 48 carts in 6 races, plus 2 extra pools that went after the first round for a total of 64 teams, 128 players. They had planned to have each pool of 8 teams play a 4-race cup, and the top two places from each pool would advance. However, as we know so well, the game does not keep track of any scores in LAN mode. I talked to Zig21, the head of the console tourney room about it, and was able to help them get a quick paper-based scoring system so they could record the scores of 4 races. It was great to have the opportunity to share our Kart tournament expertise, and help out a truly large event, and I think the event went very well, other than the fact that my randomly-assigned partner (because I didn't bring one) and I got knocked out in the first round. The competition was very intense. I actually did play-by-play on the mic for the finals, a set of 8 races, and last year's winning team, Sparkimus Prime, won again. Prizes for all the tournaments at PAX were different numbers of 'tickets' for the prize booth, Chuck-E-Cheese style, only with cool stuff like PSP accessories, games, toys, t-shirts, etc. I saw a brand-new set of Foster's toys that I REALLY WANTED. Oh well.

Saturday night's concert was absolutely amazing. First, Nintendo, on the ball as ever, had handed out little blue flashlights that project the nintendo logo, so the entire theater was filled with dancing Nintendo logos projected onto the walls by the audience. That was the best money they ever spent. The concert started off with Round 4 of the OMEGATHON. The OMEGATHON is an intense tournament for 32 randomly-selected players through all types of games, including tabletop, PC shooters, doubledash, Katamari Damacy, etc. Each round a few people are eliminated. Round 4 was Karaoke Revolution, which is like DDR, only you sing. In front of 2000 people. It was hilarious. The audience cheered the most for the players who sung the worst, and I can sense a surprize round game here.... just kidding, I wouldn't do that to you. However, I do want to try it at a DDR tournament and see if anyone would be interested in a Karaoke Revolution tournament.

After the OMEGATHON sing-off, Pianist Conney Lin played several beautiful, but dull, arrangements of music from Final Fantasy. Then, taking the stage by storm, came the world's 579th greatest rapper, MC Frontalot, inventor and proponent of Nerdcore hiphop, with his band, and personal hype machine, Gelatinous Cube. Front launched his new album at PAX and performed several new tracks, including 'Click Close' about pop up windows, and 'Got Message #419', about Nigerian email scams. MC Frontalot was simply awesome, high energy and suitably geeky in his short sleeve dress shirt, tie, and thick glasses. Next came a rapper who I don't think I can directly mention in this forum. I'll just say that he's the voice of Hesh from Sealab 2021 and MC PeePants from Aqua Teen Hunger Force. He was great, and led the crowd in a rousing chant of 'Nerd Power'. Also notable was his DJ, who pressed one key on his Mac at the start of each song and stood there while it played. Awesome.

However, the best band and the highlight of the evening was the all-powerful Minibosses, whose straightforward power-guitar arrangements of classic NES music stole the show. They closed with Metroid, which was just incredible. These guys are extremely talented players and they know the repertoire well, picking out lesser-known gems like Goonies II for their treatment.

Sunday began with a 'beat the pros' event, where Soul Calibur II Master Zig21 took challengers from the audience. If they could beat him in a single round, they got a $50 gift card. His main character was Astaroth, but after a few wins, he upped the ante and would beat players with their own best characters. He did get beaten a few times, but I think his final record was something like 28-17, and the whole event was just a blast. They then moved onto Halo 2 Team, and challenger teams could attempt to beat some high-ranking Halo players.

The end of Sunday, and of PAX 2005, was the OMEGATHON final round. The Omega Collection was the prize, a $10,000 collection of essentially every NES game, system, and accessory ever produced. Even the obscure and rare ones. It was kept on display in the exhibit room, locked in two enormous cages. Last year, the final round of the OMEGATHON was pong, and as we filed into the theater for the final match, there was lots of buzz, especially in pictochat, about what the game would be. Tycho and Gabe took the stage and revealed this year's final game.... it was COMBAT, for the Atari 2600, first to 2 wins. The match between omeganaughts Coreside and LeRoy was extremely intense, especially with such an amazing prize on the line. In the first match, the older Coreside showed his roots, skunking LeRoy 15-0. The next match, LeRoy got the hang of it and stormed back to tie 8-8. Then LeRoy won a match, setting the stage for an insane finale. The final match started off with Coreside taking a 6 or 7 point lead, but LeRoy came back with several shots in a row to tie it at 10 just as the scores started blinking, which in the old days, meant that your match was almost over. Finally, with the crowd going crazy, Coreside scored a final hit, and won the match, the OMEGATHON, and the entire Omega Collection. WOW.

So, what did I learn? I learned that there isn't a much better way to do Mario Kart tournaments than what were already doing, other than to have more stations or to turn people away. I also learned that if a videogame tournament smells bad, that just means you're doing it right. I learned that if you use Pictochat on your birthday, your DS announces your birthday to every chatroom you enter. I also learned that only Nintendo appreciates how powerful the hardcore can be. I saw Twilight Princess, a Game Boy Micro, AADL-GT DDR master Aaron S, Adult Kart tournament regular Omokusaki's name on the list, Mountains, Nerf capture-the-flag played across the entire hotel, and cases and cases of BAWLZ overcaffeinated soda (it's nasty). I gave AADL-GT Season 1 Grand Championship DVDs to Gabe and Tycho, Zig21, a team from 1UP magazine, the winners of the PAX doubledash tournament, and a few other random people. It was a total blast, and I'm already looking forward to PAX 2006.

HEY! You found SOMETHING HIDDEN! And here it is: OMEGATHONFTW

Comments

Submitted by TC Bad driver on Wed, 08/31/2005 - 5:39pm

Sweet!
Hey Eli I had an idea for the whole thing about it being to crowded. Have all the stations on the same sime side and even one on top of the stairs and then have 8 chairs at each station 4 for playing four for viewing. Also I would just like to metion two things that happened at the tourtaments that were not sporting. #1 I am not going to metion names but, if it happens again I will #2 There Is a unnamed person who tried to team up with the best person at each battle. If you don't attack somebody in your clan thats O.K. but, this person was not in a clan with the people he tried to team up with. #3 In the final round of single player melee someone got out and there were three players who were very close to eachother in damage and it was anyones game and when the guy got out he blocked player 4's view and he fell off. You know who you are you. Just clean up your act.

lol bad driver u and tp2 teamed up on me in the final ssbm match and i STILL beat u guys. yea i hate the noise makers too they should stop that. and in the match at Onett where i played u 2 and michael song but he got out he was young link i killed both of u with smash attacks and we were not close in damage we each had 1 life i had like 124% and u 2 had probably 50%. the person who i teamed up with is my friend and i got 2nd in that match anyway. the whole PAX thing sounded cool especially this zig guy in soul caliber 2 did he use the guy with the big sword cuz i heard he was really cheap. do u know who won the halo 2 tournament and their gamertag online so i can look them up to see their skill level compared to me. in july leinad asked me to team up with him and i said ok and we finished the match 1 and 2(i was 1st with 2 lives left yippee) and he had to play me again and he didnt want to team up so he got 3rd just like ur brother in icicle mountain BTW that stage should be banned. eli i just wanted to get other people's opinions about which system i should get and i DO want ssbm2 for the revolution cuz i belive it has online play. i just got back from my first day and i was sleeping for about 3 hours once i got back and i had to help all these new kids who didnt have a clue what they were doing. bad driver if it offends u i wont do it again promise but i will do it i there is someone in my clan who is in the match like galen or joe. black shark and i are working on a diabolical plan to annoy the noise makers like they did to us.
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Submitted by Sir Ducksalot on Wed, 08/31/2005 - 7:39pm

Wow, “The Omega Collection was the prize, a $10,000 collection of essentially every NES game, system, and accessory ever produced. Even the obscure and rare ones." That is the coolest prize I have ever heard about. That sounds amazing and while you were gone I thought of having people that show-up early sign a list.

The DS rocks when owners get together. I was at a FIRST robotics competition and there were many people with them and the DS telling people it's your birthday is pretty cool. I hope to go to U-Con in Nov. and hope to see you there Eli. I know it won't be PAX but it is still good fun.

Eli are you going to Ban Items and Stages? If so I still think Items should be on Med. For the Teaming up thing I would say it is perfectly fine to team up you still will have to fight each other in the end and backstabbing happens. The smart people wouldn't try and team-up with the best players.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

duck is right i teamed up with flare cuz he is my friend though. lets start coming to a consensis on what items/stages should be banned. as for items i think we should do tomato and heart. stages we should do termina,hyrule temple, icicle mountain, rainbow cruise, big blue, brinstar depths, and flat zone. when someone contradicts me i will explain my reasoning for now i gotta do my hw.
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Sravan - I disagree. Eli - please play all stages. There's a certain commonly banned stage that I really really <strong>really</strong> hope to play on in September. I'm saying no more until the tournament.

"There is no spoon." -Neo

Eli - wow, sounds awesome. very, very cool.

bad driver - Sravan and me teamed up once at the preseason. I say there's nothing wrong with it. IMO, those "best players" should just kill that guy first.

"There is no spoon." -Neo

Submitted by California Love on Wed, 08/31/2005 - 8:23pm

So Eli, got any new ideas, and info on the new leaderboard that ejk was talking about?

"Chunks does the Truffle Shuffle"

Submitted by ryanhibbs4@gmail.com on Wed, 08/31/2005 - 8:41pm

eli can your clan symbol be anything other than the currant choices. could i email u a pic and u put it on?

leinad u lier u asked me to team up with u and i said yes and i asked if u wanted to do it again u said no.
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cool...my schools sweet...freakin sweet...good teachers and ppl in my classes...
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Submitted by Sir Ducksalot on Wed, 08/31/2005 - 9:43pm

There are only 3 stages I want Banned Hyrule Temple,Yoshi 64 and Brinstar Depths.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

I find that Temple is my favorite stage cause it has together we ride as the secondary music but i agree with duck it should be banned with the other stages he listed

Sravan, I don't see how that makes me a liar. I teamed up with you once and I don't see anything wrong with it. Which is exactly what I said. The second time I felt as though I might have better chances in a free for all. That's all. No lies involved.

"There is no spoon." -Neo

leinad i sincerly apoligize i misread your comment i thought it said sravan made me instead of sravan and me. btw isnt it sravan and i but whatever. hyrule,brinstar, and yoshi N64 are ok with me but i also want icicle mountain and rainbow cruise to be banned but if rainbow cruise isnt then i am ok with that. lots of people think big blue should be banned but u stay on the yellow falcon shaped car for the first 30 seconds right and then only u move to other cars. other people like it cuz half the pokemon are useless there like the ones that fly except for starmie i think. so who is going to the next tournament? so far i know that duck's clan is, our clan is, black sharks clan is, and thats it o yea plus flare. actually joe u never told me if u and derek were coming to the september tournament so can u tell me please so i can tell the subs that i have to come or not(flare and this other kid). flare if and only if joe or derek dont show up will u sub for my clan?
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im going to ceder point tommarow i am so happy.
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I.M. could be banned but I don't think Rainbow cruise or big blue should be. They might be annoying but they don't give an unfair advantage to any character like Hyrule temple or Yoshi 64 and they don't make it terrible bad for any character (I.M. and brinstar depths can be really bad for bad jumpers).
"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

I think the only stages that should be banned is brinstar depths, pokemon floats and battlefield. But they are kind of okay. So we might not have to ban any. We should lower the items and take away some cheap items like the home-run bat...

oh yeah...i also think 100 %ly that the noise makers should not even come to the tournament...let alone make noise...also i think there should be a limit for players...because last time it was just too many people...you could barely move in that crowd!!! I f ur going to make a limit, i think it should be about 75 people. Also, it got really hot in there so maybe you could raise the air conditioner or put some fans. And also i think you should like do something about the noise level when people are playing. People just keep talking and talking...it's really annoying and it can get mess up people's conversations. You should like have the audience also look at the big screen instead of having them around the competetors. I sometimes lost my concentration.

oh yeah, we should absolutely NOT ban hyrule temple, because that is like the second best field. Also, i think we should keep icicle mt. because it is fun and challenging and is also short so sometimes people lose lives.

Battlefield isn't unfair in fact it is one of the most balanced stages there are. Pokèfloats is also a well balanced stage it doesn't require amazing skill to fight and move I.M. can move so fast that certain slower characters get die even if they weren't in a fight. The home-run bat may seem cheap to certain people but the bat requires a long time to swing and can easily be stopped by any hit with knock back and can be very bad for the user. Hearts, Tomatoes, Stars, Hammers, Cloaking Devices, Metal Boxes, Red Koopa Shells, Bob-ombs, Pokeballs, Party Balls, and Mushrooms are the ones we would probably ban if we ban at all.

Hyrule temple is unfair because a good fox can avoid damage and combat all together and then be cheap in sudden death by sitting in the pavilion area while everyone gets bombed.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

ya but like the only good fox is sravan and maybe sravan wont do that and oh yeah...eli could we do 4 stock-6 minutes melee? 1 stock is just to little and the time...it's okay. Actually battlefield is okay with me.

Were you at the last tournament Prince Marth there is no way we could do 4 stock 6 min melee.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

Prince marth? if you play as marth, you are one of the last people i would expect to want home run's banned, ever try countering, marth can counter home run bats very well, and hammers, and beam swords. TRy countering a home run..... its very useful

BCL you still on.

Don't ban items or stages. Duck you probably don't like Hyrule Temple or Yoshi 64 because, you play as a character without range moves. That's why you like battlefield.

I don't understand why anyone would want to ban brinstar depths it punishes campers.

As BCL said marths are incredible against bats and hammers. Hammers aren't as good in this game. You can get hit by ranged moves that might knock you back. Once knocked back you are vulnerable unless you can wiggle really fast. (you can't tech w/ a hammer). You will then be smashed and will watch as you helplessly fall to your death.

Bats are really slow. It is shameful to be home runned.

yeah i am still on, i got to do phy sci though you still on, feel sorry for the hurricane victims

by the way, there is no point to wave dashing, especially with my character

Submitted by Airforce on Thu, 09/01/2005 - 7:03pm

sort of reading it now, pretty boring. If i have time i will be glad to take kart, since i only qualified in ssb. but, i plan on doing my precalculas homework for week this weekend, so maybe not

so, which phy sci article are you doing?

1 stones = 5.70735888 × 10 to the 17 joules

you know how to use google calculator right,
and you know about google mirror too RIGHT?

Submitted by TurtlePerson2 (not verified) on Thu, 09/01/2005 - 7:11pm

I'll bring kart over sometime.

I don't know about the phy sci yet (hopefully it will have nukes).

BCL what is google mirror? (tell me later.)

TurtlePerson2 (really) signing off.

"TORTURIS EXUVIAS EUNT"

there is plenty point in wavedashing with luigi and mart and mewtwo but not so much with other characters.

omid how can u say battlefield is unfair its my favorite stage and i think its the most balenced stage(final destination doesnt have platforms so ur character doesnt have to be airel). mini blin is also a good fox i want to give him credit. tp2 i know depthes kills pansees and campers but if kraid tips the stage when u are about to come back then u are screwed. i dont see much of a character unfair advantage but i do see it in flat zone even though i like flat zone. DK can grab someone walk really fast to almost the edge and throw someone and they die, marth and roy have really good finishing moves so they can smash u out. tp2 u said ducks character doesnt have any projectiles and u used the same guy as him does that mean u changed? u guys know the advantage for fox at N64 right?

items i dont know why u have red shell and bomb omb please give reasons for banning these items and fox and falco can reflect bombs and if u dont use them then thats too bad 4 u, they can also reflect red shells but eventually it will be a shield breaker. starman is what noobs need for like a big break so that stays on the banned list. hammer i dont know why u have it its an advantage to ur character *cough*counter*cough*. poke ball isnt that bad half the time u dont get a good pokemon and 7/8 the time if u get a good one then the other players will some how dodge it unless there are noobs.

haha i used paragraphs cuz i feel this post is really long
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Submitted by TurtlePerson2 (not verified) on Thu, 09/01/2005 - 7:18pm

Marth can reflect bombs.

TurtlePerson2 (seriously this time it is for real) signing off.

"TORTURIS EXUVIAS EUNT"

Submitted by Airforce on Thu, 09/01/2005 - 7:21pm

by the way..... there is no point to wave dashing, yes you can float across the screen and it looks "cool", but it is mainly for confusing noobs and it is no real benefit that is why nintendo left it in the game even after the debuggers figgured out this flaw, L canceling is much more useful

Anti snowman logging off.

"TORTURIS EXUVIAS EUNT"

i need to get that phrase in a different language

party ball is ok there is no problem with it i dont know why its on the list. metel box is actually a little bit unfair to someone who is stalling to either go into sudden death or they have 2 lives and everyone else has 1 cuz its harder to kill a metel guy. cloaking devise isnt bad either u should be able to see the person or at least know where they are or else u havent had this game for a long time. its just the no damage thing that helps stallers. mushrooms arent that bad cuz its a 50-50 chance that u will succeed with a giant mushroom.

most of the items on duck's banned list are probably there for special situations where someone has an unfair advantage and thats what items are basically for to give people an advantage if they are losing.

"Some say the glass is half full, others say its half empty, I say are you going to drink that"
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anti snow man u dont know what wave dashing is useful for then. there are special things that u can do when u wave dash that i'm not going to say then u have to figure them out on ur own. L-canceling is useful. fox's reflector rocks. flare told me that when u counter a bomb u explode is this true cuz i have never tried it.
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i am a computer geek hellooooooooo. I know a lot about wave dashing, just go to google and type in wave dashing and you got all the secrets, but it is not useful for my character.

wave dashing only works with light characters, very light characters, they get killed so easly........

by the way Sravan... you are acting like a dishonest realtor since you only tell people what you think they know.

okay anti snowman logging out (this time for real)

LANG LEVENDE SKILPADDEN

ha ha i got it in NOrwegan, I am a google master

Bob-ombs are banned because they move on there own, have you ever noticed that right when your in a fight a Bob-omb will activate off screen and come and kill you. Plus, Right when your about to do an attack a Bob-omb pops up right in the line of your attack and blows up in your face.

Red shells I would think are banned because when there start moving they juggle people like no tomorrow. if you're in the air and you foe is on the ground then you will just get a horrible beating.

Metal Boxes, Mushrooms, Red Koopa Shells, Bob-ombs, Stars would be banned because they act without player input or by accident. If the computer wishs all of a sudden a poison shroom pops into existence right above your character.
Cloaking Devices because if you pick it up at low % it means you near invincible.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

lol a dishonest relator that cracks me up. i totally forgot bombs move on their own so then they should be banned but u should sometimes know if a bomb is coming so u have to get prepared. if u are in the air then u wont get a beating cuz i will fire fox to the place where there is no redshell and if it ever comes to me i reflect it. when they juggle u just use ur recovery move(up B) and go somewhere safe, also fox can use reflector and belive it or not the reflector is fox's best move and its the fastest move in the game so i could do it in between ur rapid A attack except kirby,falcon, and shiek i think.

omid dont worry about the noise makers noah and i got a plan sorta. noah if u read this u can tell omid the plan and maybe he can help out.

is PAX a televised event i think it should be cuz i have dishnetwork and one of my channels are called PAX.
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I added some stuff to my last comment.

Not everyone uses fox a bowser or ganon has a hard time avoiding a redshell right below him.

You guys should try figuring out why I say they are banned instead of just asking questions, you’re making my grammar worse.

Oh and I like Hyrule temple and Yoshi 64 and hate Battlefield.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

PAX isn't televised, although they do film it and release a multi-dvd set. PAX the Penny Arcade Expo and PAX the cable network could not be more different... I think it's safe to say they occupy opposite ends of the cultural spectrum.

I've seen good arguments for banning bob-ombs and red shells, but it seems most people are equivocal on banning stages. My inclination is to not ban any stages unless someone can make a really strong argument for it. Brinstar Depths has got to be in, it's one of the most exciting levels in the game, IMHO. Banning Hyrule Temple because people can hide doesn't make sense to me. It's not like you have to look for them. Plus, if you've seen my tattoo, you know I'm biased. Banning food doesn't seem to make sense to me; it's not like they give you a huge boost. I'd even want to keep the tomato as it makes things so interesting when several players really need it.

I never said anything about banning food. And I don't really care about banning anything so this works for me I was just giving the typical banned items & Stages.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

we definitely have to ban the metal box, the star, the cloaking device and the mushrooms. It is going to be more fun that way. Oh, and also i think we should use bomb ombs because you can easily give a lot of damage to people back if they got something like a tomato or something. and also for fields it is a must for no poke floats and no battlefield and a yes for hyrule, because you can run and hide to stall as much as much as you want, and then you can have more sudden death time and easily dodge the bombs and have lots of space to move.

Submitted by Blue Monkey on Thu, 09/01/2005 - 9:14pm

the noise makers were really bad. it messed up my concetration and lost 4th place like twice cause they were right behind yelling in my ears!!!!>(

you can die accidentaly in all levels.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

ya but pokefloats is like picking which pokemon you want to fall of of, and you can easily fall off a small pokemon if you get hit by anyone or anything.

hey eli, are we gonna have a lot of improvements in the next tournament? I want this one to be a good one because it is two days after my birthday and i hope to get lucky.

tell me if i'm wrong eli-

so we are going to have a seprate room for the people who arent playing, the commentators, and the equipment. also the space behind the big screen will be used for food. pre registraion will be an advantage even though we still have to check in at the tournament we will have a limited number of players for each event 64 or 56 is a good number.

we will each get 3-4 races for single mario kart and team mario kart and then we will do elimination where the top 4 players move on in each race and for team we will do the top 4 teams. the point system is granprix scoring except its multiplied by 10. we will also be doing split screen so we can run 2 races at once but i dont think we should do split screen team. since team is half the people it should take half the time and its just like doing a split screen except u and ur partner are team mates. the only down side to split screen and we can work with this is the commentators they have to follow both people but since there are 2 of them 1 for each racer wont be a big deal.

in single melee we will get 4-6 matches and then the top 16 scores move into march madness style 1v1 and then the top 4 people qualify for the prize round. the banned items will be so far are the bomb and red shell which i dislike as i said in my other posts. the scoring is as such- 1st is 100 points, 2nd is 60 points, 3rd is 30 but it should be 20, and 4th is 10. also there are no banned stages so far. and it will be 2 stock, 3 minutes, items on medium, damage ratio on 1, handicap off, and random stages.

in team melee each team will get 3-4 matches and i reccommend that because the winner gets 100 points. then we will choose the top 8 teams i think and do either a random elimination like mario kart or march madness with 8 people which isnt that complicated. then we will make the top 4 teams go to the prize round. the scoring is winner-100 loser-10 or 20 i forget. the prize round depends on the game so i cant say anything about that. team melee will be the same rules like single melee except friendly fire is off.

now for my suggestions. if and ONLY if we have enough time i strongly recomend having best out of 3 for the finals if we have more time then the semis and the 3rd place match. the reason behind this is since we are probably not going to ban stages if you lose u can have a 2nd chance at getting the gold or bronze. if you beat someone 2 times in a row then u are truly better then them. bombs and red shells should NOT be banned cuz catching bombs is a skill its too bad if u dont know how to do it and red shell u can easily dodge and it wont kill u just bounce u up and down and thats wen u use ur recovery move.

can we please just ban one stage at least and thats hyrule. more sudden deaths happen and people can hide in the arc when its raining bombs. icicle mountain too uz that tends to have sudden death a lot because people are trying to stay alive and not kill each other hence the name last man standing which is what stock is. yea thats basically it eli if u could tell me if i'm wrong about the events could u please tell me.
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Well, Sravan, close, but missing several key things and still just speculation. Anyone can be in the room, whether they are playing or not. Registration will be outside the room at the bottom of the stairs, and there will be places to sit and a TV outside the room. We're not going to go through the hassle yet of moving Geek Central outside the room, although we're planning it, I need to see if the August tournament was a fluke or a new standard level of turnout before we go to those lengths (of cable).

I will DEFINITELY NOT be limiting the tournament to 64 players. I know you guys like the smaller tournaments, but as a library, we cannot justify providing more races to fewer people. I want to include as many people as possible. Because of our qualifier model, we don't need to have a power of 2 as a maximum for the tournaments, so as I was said before, I was thinking about a maximum of around 125 attendees, maybe 75 pre-registrants and 50 walkins. With the changes we've got in mind, I think we can handle that. Don't quote me on any of this, it will be formally announced in a post soon.

I would like to have as many as 3-4 matches in qualifying for each event, it all depends on turnout and how quickly everyone gets registered. We've got improvements planned to that process as well, and with going split-screen for single player kart, I think we'll have more time for everything. I'd like to go back to full screen for team kart, we'll have to see how it goes. I'd also like to do 1v1 elims in Smash Bros, and perhaps best of 3 in the finals, it all depends on how things go.

Sravan makes some good arguments on not banning any items. Anyone care to disagree? I need a stronger reason to ban stages too.

I didn't go to the Red vs. Blue panel, although Burnie was on another panel I went to and he was awesome.

thanks eli. i guess u can work 125 people in mario kart with the split screen it should take half the time it did last time cuz there were about 100 ppl playing single mario kart. yay we might have best out of 3 for the finals. i cant read any of ur guys' disagrees until later this evening cuz i'm going to CEDAR POINT early lol. i still dont know how to put a link on this blog the formatting options has all this weird stuff.
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you know, i don't think that we should ban any items because items are there for fun and advantages and they help you a ton sometimes, so we should not ban any items. Also i was wondering if battlefield was banned in the last tournament, because i never saw it show up and i think we should have it because it's like the perfect field, after corneria. But i don't think we should ban any stages even hyrule. so we shouldn't ban any items or any stages. But if we are going to ban something it should be the noisemakers.

We are not going to have permanent commentators. Eli said he was going to cycle thru commentators and have certain people commentate certain events.

I agree with Prince Marth, there is nothing cheep about any of the items, if you don't like bombs, then just get out of the way, they don't explode instantly so you have time, stars, cloaks and mushrooms are not cheep, if your open gets them, just practice rolling, there is no item in the game that you cannot avoid, you just have to watch the whole field,

by the way tp2- google mirror is just the mirror image of the search engine made by some geeks, just go to google seach google mirror, the search quarry is right to left in stead of left to right on mirror.

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I would like to commentate Mario Kart, and I'm sure Tom wants to as well.

I think you should not ban any items or courses. Reasons:

- Eli has repeatedly said that increasing randomness is a good thing. More items and stages does just that.

- I'd be willing to bet that with practice any of us can overcome most of the main difficulties that people mentioned with certain items or stages

- More variety makes things more interesting :-)

"There is no spoon." -Neo

omid when u try to ban something u always think of the worst case senario like if someone else got a starman. i know u are not a noob and if a noob gets a starman and has a big break then u might loose. hyrule is bad cuz i already told u on AIM. lets just talk there. duck uses marth.
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eli no one said anything about food i want to keep food. icicle mountain mainly because of hiding but more importantly sudden death. galen was playing john durski and he was under a rock sitting there as kirby and galen was outside dodging bombs and when galen goes to attack him john does a runing attack and kills him. same with hyrule temple in sudden death there is that arc at the left hand side of the course and if u stay there the bombs can't hit u. yoshi N64 because unfortunatly on the farthest cloud if u are fox then u can keep jumping and shoot ur laser and no one can do anything about it.

i dont think we should ban the bomb because there are only special situations where it is cheap and those situations never happen to u unless u dont know what ur next move is. catching the bomb is one of the advanced skills in melee and lots of people should be able to do that. someone said homerun bat but that shouldnt be banned cuz its really slow and if u get homerunned its a shame. we can all agree on banning starman right? also banning the heart maybe not the tomato because the heart heals 100% and then the game will take longer thus resulting in sudden death or the player who got the heart most likely winning.

eli, the reason why hyrule temple is so bad is because if someone is not as skilled as the other players he/she can go to the bottom of the stage and wait till someone comes for him and he can keep avoiding people until sudden death where he has a chance of winning. who does anti-snowman use i'm just curious?

in conclusion the only banned items should be heart, and starman. the banned stages should be yoshi N64, hyrule temple, and icicle mountain. eli what will the rules be at the ssbm only tournament in october and will there be team play there?

if the people we refered can't come on the blog, in the next tournament can we bring them up to u so they can tell u that we reffered them?
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actually banning nothing but the noise makers works for me but i am only suggesting that we ban these to make it fair but since its ur tournament u can do w/e u want.
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Submitted by joesmo on Fri, 09/02/2005 - 1:04pm

i have an idea: stop posting 50 comments a day. its driving me crazy. dont ban anything...it worked fine last tournament...maybe icicle mountain just cuz if you are the ice climbers or bowser and the stage goes up real fast it is next to impossible to live...nana(or w.e.) will die and the ice climber cant jump as high

sravan, every time you get the urge to check on this blog, i want you to go play melee or mariokart instead...youd be like a world champ if you would have been doing that all this time...im tryin to practice a lot too...pz
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A couple points. &lt;_&lt;

First, there was discussion about good foxes on the previous page and no-one mentioned post. He got first place in every SSB (team or single) match except one qualifier, and is number seven on the leaderboard purely off of his ssb scores since he didn't get any significant place in the mkdd races or prize round &gt;_&gt;.

Second is banned items. Basically any item that gives you a damage % advantage should be banned. Cloaking devices, hearts, tomatoes, food fall in to this category. There is <strong>ZERO</strong> skill involved in using these items and there is <strong>NO</strong> way to counter their use. You might argue like eli sorta did that the skill comes in to play with the brawl to be the first to get the item, but honestly getting to the item first is going to be 90% how close you are when it appears (luck) and 10% being able to fight to it (skill). =P

Duck made the case for banning to player input items like the mushrooms/starman/bomb so I'll leave that one alone.

As for banned stages, we haven't seen anyone do ridiculous stalling, which is the reason stages like hyrule temple would be banned, but can we count on that remaining the case? People might just do cheesy stalling to prove that the stages should have been banned at this point, and once that's been done they really do have to be banned. In certain situations your best chance at winning is to stall out, and since you can't make a rule against taking you best chance at winning, if you want to prevent stalling from happening you need to ban the stages that the SSB community have discovered over the last several years to be too conducive to such tactics.

A couple of comments on the last post.

banned items - randomness is a good thing and they toned down the health recovery items from old SSB (hearts used to be a full recovery) so they aren't really as extremely helpful anymore. Again, I'll say, randomness is good and makes matches more interesting. A player is behind and then gets a heart to even things up! IT's exciting drama.

stalling - what's wrong with stalling. I say if you can successfully, go for it. It's a legitimate strategy in stock matches. It changes the game a bit, but it's not a bad thing.

"There is no spoon." -Neo

In response to leinad, whether or not randomness is good is a matter of opinion I suppose, and I'll leave that at that. But you should realize that although health items can even out and make more exciting a game, it is also able to turn an already even match into a far more one sided ordeal =P.

And I imagine if one doesn't take particular exception to stalling there's no reason to ban any stages =p

ok now i am awake and fresh. jlgenilas y would u ban food???????????
i can understand hearts and tomatos sorta but food only heals like 5% average. i belive leinad said this before but i might be mistaken but if u are the best player at melee u must be the best to handle any and i mean ANY situation. that means u should be able to play with any items but not nessarily stages.

we should keep all the items but ban hyrule and icicle mountain just incase someone doesnt go on a stalling rampage and to avoid sudden death. the main reason we havent seen any major stalling going on is because we havent had hyrule yet. maybe someone has but they were playing noobs. jlgenials or whoever said the thing about post i asked like 5 times which character post and corey used but no one would tell me so now i know he uses fox.

omid u havent given a good reason not to ban hyrule and icicle mountain u are just so mad at the noise makers.

if anyone here ever goes to cedar point tell me how the dragster was and if u want to ride it dont sit in the front cuz when they tested it with manikins their heads popped off! joe i didnt post a single thing yesterday and school hasent like formally started yet we still dont know our teachers well enough and i have an essay due on wednesday.
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Sravan - Cedar Point rocks my world. I live to go there several times a summer. Anyways, I didn't ride the dragster when it was new becvause of the line, but I finally got to ride it this summer, and it was amazing. It was perfection embodied in a roller coaster. It was probably close to the best 14 seconds of my life.

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cool.

didnt someone say before that in single melee lots of people got 3rd and 1st and they got 130 points but when someone got 2 seconds they got 120 points. they should be the same but there will be a lot more ties. usually they will tie for the higher places like 6th or 5th but we should change 2nd place to 65 points. if we do that then a 1st and 4th would be 110 but 2nd and 3rd would be 95 points. maybe we should do 1st-100, 2nd-70, 3rd-40, and 4th-10. this system works out fine so there is no unfair scoring.
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I'm pretty sure Sravan that I said the thing about being the best means you need to be able to handle any situation. And I meant that you had to be able to do anything compensate for items the opponent uses and the obstacles the stage generates.

Oh and I don't find Cedar Point that fun.

"My next clue came at 4:15, when the clock stopped. And another came 2 hours later at 4:15 when I discovered the murdered body of Amy's dead, deceased corpse!"

cedar point was voted the best park 7 years in a row(according to them) and it has almost all roller coasers and the power tower rides and especially the mantis cuz u stand up so duck i dont know what u are talking about cuz it was <strong>FUN</strong>.
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Submitted by TheKoolAidGuy on Sun, 09/04/2005 - 12:44pm

who does antisnowman use?
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The main reason other tournaments bans stages is because you pick stages. Here at our tournament we go with random stages. So people that can stall on larger stages have to deal with the possiblity of having to play on a small stage. If say your foe was playing C. falcon And you got to choose the stage you could pick Mushroom Kingdom I because most of his moves will hit up and the blocks stop you from being KOd easily. Here since we have random stages it is only a lucky/unlucky break if Mushroom Kingdom I is picked. You only have about 4-5% chance that anyone stage is choosen. So 2 things here one stalling shouldn't be a problem because cronic stallers can get stuck with moving stages and there is no need to ban stages.

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Submitted by California Love on Fri, 09/02/2005 - 9:10pm

Well, cycling commetators is fine, but Eli should arrange it so nobody fights over the commentating job like last tournament. The commentators should be we veterans. Anybody who has never been on this site shouldn't commentate(In other words, people who don't pre-reg.) It should at least be Me, Sravan, Galen, Duck, Muffincat, Leinad, Prince Marth, Flare, Ugo, and whoever else i'm forgeting. I think 4 commentating, we should have a small TV rite in front of us so that we don't have 2 rely on the big projector screen where everybody stands in front of it. Capiesce? O, and anybody who is a "noob" should do the truffle shuffle when they get there at the tournament, JW. I can't wait 2 unleash my secret weapon on those noise makers, it will make them wish that they never made noise at the tournament, muhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahaha.

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what's ur plan? bring a boombox and play over them? huh...i think there should be no noise level except the constant mumbling of the audience and the yells of victory...

omid... i have nothing to say to u. anyway cedar point was FUNNNN. i went on basically all the rides except the dragster, the power tower, and the demon drop. the mellenium force was the best cuz it goes 90mph and i didnt want to go on the dragster cuz it goes 128mph. i'm too tired to post anything right now so i'll post tommarow. peace
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Submitted by California Love on Sun, 09/04/2005 - 1:13pm

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This is strange. I checked on the AADL-GT site and I looked at my clan info, it shows me, Nilofar, and Nick11(Nick), but where The Loser (Omid) should be, it says N/A, y is that Eli?

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Where r u Eli? When r these blogs that u can't post on anymore be deleted on this site? ejk said there would be a new leaderboard, when will it come?

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ok the thing is people hearts and stars should be banned because of time we get three minutes stars give you like invinibilty for like 20 seconds and hearts let you recover 100 damage making it harder to kill you therefore letting you survive longer if there was no time limit it would be fine for these items but there is a time limit as for stages the only stages we should ban are hyrule temple and yoshi island 64 because a lot of people like 60% of the people run away and hide on yoshi's place and in hyrule its a matter of luck so you can be at 367% and survive up to 462 or something this is all i have to say right now so read it and understand or the world as you know it will be destroyed mwahahahahahaha

Submitted by TheKoolAidGuy on Sun, 09/04/2005 - 3:03pm

flare has a good point.

how about only banning star and heart and as for stages we should ban hyrule temple, yoshi N64, and icicle mountain. yoshi N64 because of the last cloud where u can do numerous things, icicle mountain and hyrule because of unfair sudden deaths and stalling. <strong>THERE IS NO PRIDE IN STALLING IF WE DONT BAN THESE STAGES AND ONE OF THEM COMES UP AND A PERSON STALLS THERE THEY MIGHT WIN THE MATCH BUT THEY WILL LOOSE THEIR DIGNITY.</strong>

i feel so happy i just got 160 points in all cup tour 150cc. my biggest difference between me and 2nd place was probably 14seconds in yoshi circut but i got hit by lightning and a master shell but i got a 9 second difference in daisy crusier even though i fell to the cargo area but i also got 9 seconds in DK mountain cuz i did the half pipe thing bad.
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The last cloud tactic doesn't really hold up with Items since people can throw Pokèballs and all sorts of other stuff at you without you being able to retaliate. And at high % in hyrule even in the enclosed space people can kill you with throws and spikes easily. So I don't see much need to ban them.

I think Antisnowman uses Marth.

Oh and the V.M. clan is still occupied by the subs.

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Omid, that is only your opinion, others think otherwise, so yes, we are going to have to go over this
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Omid, that is only your opinion, others think otherwise, so yes, we are going to have to go over this
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wtf Galen? One post of the similar comment is all we need. Sravan, how do u do it? I, for some reason still have some trouble getting quick mini turbos, which is why i can't win. I MUST WIN! DAMN THOSE NOISE MAKERS! KILL THEM ALL!
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BS (Black Shark) - It's called a double post. It happens sometimes. Live with it.

And I've already made my opinion clear about items and stages being banned. Every time you hear someone make a case the other way, just hear my voice in your head pointing out how stupid they are.

"There is no spoon." -Neo

would that be the voice of Leinad or of Daniel?

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

i just saw transporter 2 and it was a really good movie with all the action. there was less driving in this 1 then in the first one.

duck whats the difference leinad is daniel backwards. omid banning specific players is unfair and we want our revenge right? they didnt get into the prize round anyway so take that u annoying little pests. duck what do u mean ur clan is full of subs are leinad and tom not coming again?

lets see leinad and omid say dont ban anything i say ban some stuff and i dont know what duck,black shark,tp2,galen, or anti-snowman think but tell everyone if u want to ban something or not and if so say what u want banned.

noah i told u before to read the insturction booklet and look on the page where it says mini turbo. if u cant do it fast enough then u need something called practice.

BTW tp2 if anti-snowman does use marth 2 marths on a team is stupid but thats only if anti-snowman uses marth. no offense
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the only reason we didn't ban stages before is because we didnt get to pick them...in other tournaments u get to pick them so i don't think that we should ban any thing and keep it old school.:)

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Here's my opinion, everybody shut up about banning everything, I think that that we should live life as it is. Play SSBM as it should be played. U guys do know that Eli decides everything, rite? I think Eli already said that we shouldn't ban anything, even though PAX had rules of banning stuff, but I bet Eli will not ban anything. Just live on and practice with all items, food, and stages. There are certain buttons(Z, L, or R) 4 a shield and a certain "in-air" dodging button(L). Ok? Jesus Christ, when will this argument end, it is totally pointless. And Sravan, my name on this post is Black Shark, u can call me by my real name on AIM and in the real world, but not on this site, OK? Nothing Personal.

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the air dodging thing is totally off topic NOAH. that shows how much u know about it u can also use R to do an air dodge and u probably dont know about rolling dodge or side dodge. does anyone here use side dodge i know people use rolling dodge and air dodge cuz of wave dashing. i can call u NOAH if i want there is nothing u can do about it OK? are u saying that dodging is cheap?

what omid said inspired me to leave everything as it is not what black shark said. oops i meant to say noah. also duck said that since there are 30 stages there is like a 3-4%chance the stage u hate will come up so there is nothing to worry about. if one of those stages does come up and someone wins by stalling then they lose their dignity.

eli the guy who won the melee tournament at PAX, what character did he use? we are still doing the cup thing right? the cup thing might take a long time so maybe we should stick to the normal setup that we do but have split screen. team mario kart there is no split screen right?
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i found out that the upcoming DDR tournament is the sunday after the tournament from 1-4pm at mallets creek. do they have the open play mario kart and melee and other games like pikman and 1080 and kirby's air raid? if so i might go.

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Submitted by Sir Ducksalot on Mon, 09/05/2005 - 10:17am

I don't want to ban anything. Joe you’re such a hypocrite saying not to post stuff about unrelated topics and then asking which pair of shoes to buy.

We are going to have 2 stock not 1; the last tournament was a time crunch so we had to have it be 1 stock or nothing.

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Submitted by TheKoolAidGuy on Mon, 09/05/2005 - 12:08pm

if cost isnt an issue joe then i like the 2nd ones the first one is really long and is pure white with no logo or anything. omid i'm not that good at DDR but i got 4th place of the people doing light mode. i feel that that is better cuz u can play for 3rd and 4th prize. duck how does that make him a hypocrite? there is nothing to say until eli says something. joe i only posted 3 times yesterday...

sorry snowman duck just said u used marth so i assumed u did. who do u use?
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Where is everybody? This is an all time low for posting in one day. Eli hasn't showed up for like, a week. How do u make links? it says something below about it, but i don't know how 2 make that certain "character" that it shows.
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Submitted by tomcove6888 on Mon, 09/05/2005 - 6:49pm

Wow. So much has happened since I was last here.

First of all, the tournament happened. Good job to everyone who won.

Second of all, I would like to make a suggestion about commentating. I would like to request that Leinad and I stay color commentators for Double Dash, and that we get two all-time color commentators for Melee. It would be a better idea to have two people set for each type of event, because it would be less confusing for all involved. The best example that I can think of is the X Games, where each different sport has it's own set of commentators. (And yes, the X Games are really sports.) As for the SurPrize rounds, we could either have all four commentators doing it at once (though that might become a bit crowded), we could have a team from just one of the games do it, and then alternate, or we could pair up one person from each commentary team and they could do it, and then the pairs would alternate.

Thirdly, I think it would be a horrible idea to move the video production and commentary booths outside. I think it would be easier for the video production team to be inside because they also happen to be the technical support, scorekeepers, etc, for the whole tournament. I think it would be easier to have the commentary team inside the room as well, because unless we've come up with some sort of notification system as to who is playing at what station, it is a lot easier if the commentators can look out over the stations and see who is sitting where. This would be especially helpful for Mario Kart, because unlike Melee, there is no player identification system in the game, other than the characters, and that won't help at all because the characters are random (duh). It would also be a better idea to keep the commentators in the room because it would take them less time to get from the commentary booth to their station if they get called in to race. And seeing Eli's insetred comments in the tourney recap, apprently time is something that is of the essence at these tournaments. (91 people in the melee tournament? Wow.)

Fourthly, I think we shouldn't ban any items, stages, characters, or whatever. There aren't any items that give any specific character an unfair advantage, and like Eli, Leinad and a whole bunch of other people have said, it add more randomness to the game, and in Melee, randomness=good. As far as banning stages goes, I think that if someone is caught stalling, it's not like we won't be able to tell who it is, and that person could be assessed a points penalty, or disqualified or something.

Fifthly, the **REAL** Vaccinated Monks team is going to be at the September 24th Tournament, so ya'll better watch yourselves, cause this time we aren't going to get some 1300 points or whatever we got last time.

Yeah for the longest comment today. w00t!

tom u werent there at the last tournament so u didn't know how crowded it was. it is a good idea to move everything outside and the commentators will have a special tv in which they see and commentate. we should have a pool of comentators such as last time except we can't let those 6th graders commentate. we can have 8 players and we start with 2 then when 1 of the 2 play the next person in line comes and commentates. we should have a specific list of 8 people who will commentate such as me,galen,duck,tom,leinad, and 3 others. these 5 have already claimed being commentators so there should only be 3 spots left. the suprise round should be commentated by eli or black shark cuz he never makes it in LMAO.

also i am so glad the last tournament wasent telivised thank u CTN for the mix up.
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You are absolutely correct, Sravan, I wasn't at the last tournament. If there were really approximately 100 people there, it probably would be a good idea to move stuff. Although, I just had a thought; we could take away the tables in the middle of the room, since they probably take up more space than they provide. I'm not against moving stuff as long as everyone is willing to work with it.

The problem with your plan for commentating, Sravan, is that say one person has their battles spread out over a long period of time (within each round). Then that person gets to commentate a lot more than anyone else does, which isn't really fair. I'm sure if he really wanted to, Eli could throw some part of his program together to stop that from happening, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't really want to do that. Also, as far as I know, Duck only proposed his name for commentary in replacement for Leinad and I while we were gone (if he said it somewhere else, please forgive me), so if we did it my way, it wouldn't be a problem. Leinad and I could commentate for Mario Kart (and Duck could as well maybe if he really wanted to), and you and Galen could commentate for Melee, since frankly, I know a lot more about Mario Kart than I do about Melee. I'm hesitant to having more than 4 people commentate, simply because of logistics as far as consistency over the course of all of the tournaments. I think since we don't have 30 people or whatever lining up wanting to be commentator, we should pick the four of us who are among the most experienced as far as these tournaments go, and let them do it. Of course, Eli has the final say and I won't go against what he decides.

I also think that we should pick some separate commentators for the SurPrize round, simply because the two color commentators can handle the play-by-play duties, while Eli handles the logistics, such as who's at what stations, etc. I don't know, i say we leave it up to Eli to decide, since he is kinda sorta in charge of the whole thing.

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, *I* found it!
Caboose: Look what I took credit for finding!"

yea tom my idea has a hole in it so ur idea is better. u and leinad can do mario kart and me and galen will do melee. tom just incase u don't know we have split screen so u have to keep track of 2 people at once. maybe u,leinad, and duck can do mario kart and switch off each itme one of u has to play but if all 3 of u play then eli commentates.

I find it highly unlikely that all three of us will be racing at the same time. If that does happen, or even if two of the people have to race so there's only one left, then you or Galen could come commentate for one race; I wouldn't have a problem with that. We could do the same in case you and Galen get into the same match in Melee.

Yes, I do know about split-screen, but as long as we get something that tells us who is who, I have no problem with that.

Also, Duck or Leinad, has anyone registered us as a clan yet? I'm guessing probably not, because our 4th person hasn't been on here yet, but I want to check. Oh well, I'll just talk to you guys aboot it tomorrow.

I just had another thought: Would anyone be interested in having an AADL-GT podcast? I easily have the tools to make one, but I won't waste my time if nobody will download it and/or listen to it...

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey! *I* found that!
Caboose: Look what I took credit for finding!"

whats a podcast?

before since we had 2 commentators if one of them are racing the guy would do it solo but ur idea is better. u guys will probably commentate more then us cuz a race is usually longer then a melee battle and there are 32 ppl at once playing melee and 16 ppl playing mario kart but i'm ok with that.

the main problem now is the number of people at the next tournament eli said he wants around 125 but this time we should make pre-registration an advantage. eli said 75 ppl could pre-register online and 50 ppl can come there and register and that sounds good. tom we are also using the space behind the big screen cuz we never use that space. if we are looking for 75 ppl to register online then it should say in the flyers and advertisments that u can pre-register online for a garunteed spot in the tournament. if they walk in and all the spots are filled then we can say sorry but first come first serve.
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GO RED VS BLUE!!!!!

Anyway, I have a great idea.....................................LET'S BAN EVERYTHING EXCEPT FINAL DESTINATION!!!!!
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Tom, I registered our clan but it is currently just me for real primaries. The subs from the last tournament are listed in there, but<strong><em> Once we get the subs out we can put the rest of the clan in.</strong></em>

Yep, I'll be just the sub commentator. I think Tom idea is the best so far so anyone that is decent at commentating can do it for a surprize round.

Galen your Idea is up there with cardboard for one of the worse suggestions ever.

Oh shoot now I have to try at the next tournament because everyone is coming.

Oh yeah about Stalling it is a legitimate strategy. Consider the game [w: Go board game|Go] as an example the player that is losing has to be the aggressor or else he doesn't stand a chance and the player that is winning tries his best to stay there. The winner isn't required to defend/counterattack until he/she is under attack. So stalling goes all the way back to before 200B.C.

Oh yeah Eli can I wear a badge That says I'm technical support so people stop trying to say they know the rules and format. I can make my own badge it’s just I want your or Elk’s or someone with authority permission to wear it.

"Badges? We ain't got no badges! We don't need no badges! I don't have to show you any stinking badges!"

i dont mind stalling i just feel bad for people who do cause 1 i will almost always kill that person 1st and 2 cause they cant play i really just hate people who stall and then try to beat people by using links up b and other pathicly cheap attaks oh and whoever hears leined's voice calling us stupid you can hear my voice calling him immature for saying that others are stupid for disagreeing with him oh BTW im all for randomness until it starts taking over fairness think about that for a while would you rather have a tournament based on luck where you lose to a n00b or a tournament of skill where you crush the n00b oh and 1 more thing all you people talking about not banning anything and all you people talking about banning things (including me) GROW UP AND COMPRIMISE LIKE ONLY BANNING 1 THING CAN YOU ALL LIVE WITH THAT INSTEAD OF BEING LITTLE BABIES BICKIRING OVER EVERY LITTLE THING I MEAN COME ON oh yeah omid shut up about the noise makers you are being more annoying then they were and black shark eli hasent posted because he likes wacthing us argue and because people are asking him questions he doesnt want to answer dont ask how i know this just accpet it OK EVERY BODY UNDERSTAND WHAT I JUST SAID WELL IF YOU DIDN'T PLEASE SAY SO NOW....... OR ELSE!!!!

"Peace out"

oh on a side note this is from a long time ago but not only is a pansy a type of flower it is also a derogatory term for gay men anyways all you people complaining about there being 20 commments a day thats just sad you cant read 20 comments a day i can read our longest blog in under 40 min. if you dont have like 15 min. to read these commments then you shouldnt have time to complain and if you cant read them in 15min. cause you are to slow a reader you need to read more seriosly so people STOP COMPLAING ABOUT THINGS AND GET ON WIT YER LIFE YA DIG G

"Peace out"

now that i said that can any1 count to 10 with out skipping any numbers (not including decimals or fractions or negitive integers) with only 10 numbers

"Peace out"

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10. has anyone ever seen the titanic its a really good movie even though its really sad and i can belive that is the number one box office of all time with 600 million dollars holy cow! duck stalling may be very old but if u do stall then u lose ur dignity and thats worse in losing a match(unless u get a prize in the match). so everyone agrees about commentating...good. there will be NO changes to who is commentating and how we do it except the person who commentates the prize round. since we stopped arguing about banned things and stuff lets like cut down on posting till eli makes a post.
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Back by popular demand (one person that is popular and he demanded it so hence popular demand) is my old school (defined as older then the updated site) Flame. Today’s victim is flare.

Flare "Sweet Zombie Jesus!" you are annoying. First off the reason we don't like to have to come here and read 50 posts is because you feebleminded chronic poster post stupid off topic stuff in the middle of a discussion about rules and regulations making the attempt of following the conversation confusing and frustrating. In my mind I want to be able to come here and spend at max 5 mins reading and then be able to write a comprehendible and intelligent post to contribute to the blog in a positive way. Some of us aren't going to be able to come here daily because of having homework or other commitments so if You are going to post of topic stuff do it on another form or talk on that “I think I’m technologically savvy so I’m going to use a bad program to talk to my friends” or otherwise known as AIM to talk about it but stop posting them here. I know you may be going for that Darwin award sometime in the near future Flare but saying "GROW UP AND COMPRIMISE LIKE ONLY BANNING 1 THING CAN YOU ALL LIVE WITH THAT INSTEAD OF BEING LITTLE BABIES BICKIRING OVER EVERY LITTLE THING I MEAN COME ON" shows how little you know about the system frankly as I stand right now I see no need to ban anything no one has made any augment yet that has changed my view nobody has even come close to presenting an augment as good mine for banning stages and I don’t even care for my own. So I’m waiting for someone with a brain, scarecrow, to give me a reason to change my mind so that I could see a compromise being needed. But so far every point to ban has been contradicted you peon so I don’t know why we need a compromise in the first place. So go and get a brain so that you can talk on an intellectual level above engrish or go and live in Kansas with your hick brethren so you can get hit by a tornado and have a fairy-tale drug trip with munchkins prancing around while you stuff your self with straw and hope to get a brain. And what’s up with you having 6 or so accounts If you don’t like your name there is a little thing that allows you to change you name I mean come on I can’t tell who you are half the time just hold <strong>1</strong> account and when you get tried of that name just change it and all those posts you made ages ago can still be linked to you because the name on those posts changes with it. As for the randomness bit getting a random break in one battle doesn’t help you in the long run you should realize that if you get into the elimination rounds by luck the possibility that you could just win by luck in the semi-final or finals is real slim so your complete augment is total non-sense it make less sense then half of Alice in wonderland. And for the sake of everyone learn to use grammar I know it must be hard for people with such low IQs but come on learn how to before you even try to do a high school essay. You wouldn’t get better then a D+ with that kind of spelling and grammar. I’m starting to think that calling you a scarecrow is an insult to scarecrows because they can at least walk and talk at the same time.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

Haha I made 2 lines even with the blog broken. Oh and the next person to break a blog is getting flamed so stop it.

wow my eyes really hurt from reading ur post cuz i had to keep the scroll thing going left and the letters were sorta blurry. duck eli said i had good arguments NOT banning those items and he didnt say squat about ur argument(forgive me if i'm mistaken). the disses should stop moving to flare and start moving to omid cuz flare will kick ur ass in melee any day. if u have a problem reading 50 of his posts a day then y dont u go read another fourm like the one called high schoolers who think they are better then middle schoolers in every way humanly possible just kidding lol. so guys ignore flare and start dissing omid.
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Eli can we make a fourm for the people that actully talk about Mkdd and Melee and don't just make random posts. So we could have Leinad, Tom, jlgelinas, Bad driver, Tp2, BCL and myself because no one else seems to want to talk about them.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

I just moved to ann arbor; but i have to say you video game freaks make me sick. You guys argue so much and a common denominator of these arguments are that flare person why dont you ingnoring his posts for the next few weeks and then see how things turn out

P.S. I dont care if Flare reads this

I only wanted people that proved intelligent that's why I left Joe out. And I think the flame was intended for Prince Marth because he seems to produce the most off topic posts but I went by instructions and said Flare.

Oh new person I think the fact that you don't like augments shows how much of an idiot you are debates are used to <em>educate</em> people so you not liking them makes me put you in the brainwashed idiot pool.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

i dont dislike arguments i just dont like arguments where 1 side is cleary right while the other just keeps trying to prove things by saying irrational things

i do infact have the most off topic comments and any one who says differently is wrong anyways im notgonna be at the next tourny so im not gonna post for a while so do what ever you want i dont care

it wouldn't be much of an argument then right thats y its over already. now now duck its not nice to be mean to the new kid. duck i didnt mean to offend u in my previous comments i was just kidding. new kid are u any good at melee or mario kart double dash? this is the world champions league where all the good players use marth,fox, or dr.mario lol. we are all world champions we went to different tournaments across america and usually we win then but sometimes we lose. good that the blog is fixed the only 2 ppl i kow who could have fixed it would be erik and eli but how come they didnt post something to tell us to stop arguing?
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Because they like us Arguing and don't have the time.

Come on someone fix the Vaccinated monk clan so that we can have Tom and Leinad join plus the other surprise person. Also I'm just going to assume that I can Make a badge because no one said otherwise.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

Who is this Ephriam kid? How does he know about this site? He just moved into Ann Arbor? How does he know about all of this axis aadl stuff? Can he do the truffle shuffle? How good is he? He probably can't beat me.

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"Chunks does the Truffle Shuffle"

well im your worst nightmare; and im good at mkdd but I could use some improvment in melee i cant figure out how to dodge or use smash attacks and i have a friend who talked about how stupid it was for the library to have a videogame tournament and i probley could not beat you

Submitted by California Love on Tue, 09/06/2005 - 7:52pm

What exactly is wave dashing? Please answer so i can get it over with.

"Chunks does the Truffle Shuffle"

Submitted by Blue Monkey on Tue, 09/06/2005 - 8:22pm

finally someone is talking about the topic. And whoever is bragging out there and is showing off means that they are horrible at melee. Trust me, i've met those people. Hey duck, how's it going with go club?
ok that was pretty random. Anyway, you guys are really mean just choosing who to diss at.

Submitted by Airforce on Tue, 09/06/2005 - 8:49pm

YES I FINISHED MY HOMEWORK!>!>!

BLACK SHARK!!!!! the TRuffle Shuffle has nothing to do with mcdd or Melee, I googled it and it does not have anything to do with nintendo in general so why are you asking the new guy if he can........

anyway... wave dashing you can google, basically it is air dogding very close to the ground that allows your character to glid across the screen, go to google and type in wave dashing ssb and you will get all the answers

SRavan: bowser,jk it does not matter, since i may not go to next tournament.

Submitted by TheKoolAidGuy on Tue, 09/06/2005 - 8:57pm

if u dont go then who is tp2's sub. u were really good so he needs to find someone good to replace him. right now i am laughing that u use bowserbut my friend's freshman in college brother who is a melee master is pretty good with him he beat me when i used luigi. but actually i am proud that u use bowser all these n00bs who use swordsman and sheik suck except for the ones that post on the blog. 7/8 of the ppl at last months tournament used swordsman and i saw a lot of falos and a couple of samuses. there was 1 yoshi who was rod and galen who was dr.mario and me, post, and joe who were fox. bowser does not suck i was just laughing cuz i never have seen a bowser master. lol u look everything up on google have u ever seen the goonies or family guy?

wow i just looked back at ur comment and realized u didnt use bowser o well i made a small point.
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Submitted by Sir Ducksalot on Tue, 09/06/2005 - 8:59pm

What are you in high school Omid how do you know about Go club? We haven't met at school yet but I'm currently publicity officer or something around those lines.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

duck omid told me he saw u at pioneer. LMAO thats the funniest thing i have ever heard omid in high school he is so short he is like a 6th grader. he is in 8th grade at tappan. lots of ppl who go to these tournaments go to A2Open...
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Oh the're from the lazy stoner school Ok.

Oh I guess I should tell you guys that they put the updated Leaderboard up.

Eli can we just get the points for Figwit without having to make her come to the site I don't want to bother her to much she just moved or is moving to Cal.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

lol duck there is something weird about that school...
the leaderboard looks good but omid who was "the loser" at the tournament is part of black sharks clan and i can't belive omid got less points then his sister LMAO.
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You found the new board I though it would take you longer.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

haha very funny. i think we set a record with most # of comments in one day including my comment we have around 45 comments total today which is really sad cuz half of it was arguing and there was no point to it.
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I saw the new leaderboard on http://www.aadl.org/aadlgt. Don't make fun of Omid just because he has less points than his sis'. Nilofar is pretty good at these games. I also see that Omid is still N/A for some reason and his points were still counted towards our clan. I see that the bonus points have not been counted again. Unless Vaccinated Monks got bonus points, we should be ahead of them because we have 3 new players(Omid because he didn't go 2 the AADL-GT Grand Tourney, according 2 Eli, Nick11, and Nilofar) which should give us 303 points and a total of 1643 points, which should get us in 4th place unless VM clan has bonus points, also. I'm at least in the top 40(#34, 20 points behind Nick11, who is #31). So maybe sometime u can include bonus points maybe after the next tourney. Peace Out!

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I brought 5 people plus our new member makes 6. Its not like we are going to let you get ahead of us black shark.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

hey eli, is there something wrong with the system, am i deleted out or something...can you answer all of our questions? where r u? and duck, i saw you at the registration thing at pioneer, and you kept saying hi whenever i passed ur table. so dont act like you don't remember me

omid is young link and prince marth. joe my friend is having a halo2 party. i dont know when but its this month in one of the weekends(not the weekend of the axis tournament). we are gonna have 3 TVS and 3 xboxes with 12 people so like 3v3v3v3 which is a new xbox playlist i belive.
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Submitted by California Love on Wed, 09/07/2005 - 6:43pm

Eli, can u get bonus points from subs in your clan, because Sravan says he got 404 points for new people that aren't primaries, don't they have 2 be primaries to get the bonus points? Answer me Eli! Where R U!?

"Chunks does the Truffle Shuffle"

sravan: READ MY EMAIL WOOHOOO!!!
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You get points for <em>every</em> new person you bring including one time subs.

Oh that’s right I forgot who you were. You’re the short kid that was trailing his sister around that I Kept pestering.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

""Blow Me Away"

[Verse 1:]
They fall in line
One at a time
Ready to play
(I can't see them anyway)
No time to lose
We've got to move
Steady your hand
(I am losing site again)

[Bridge:]
Fire your guns
It's time to run
Blow me away
(I will stay, in the mess I made)
After the fall
We'll shake it off
Show me the way

[Chorus:]
Only the strongest will survive
Lead me to heaven, when we die
I am the shadow on the wall
I'll be the one to save us all

[Verse 2:]
There's nothing left
So save your breath
Lying in wait
(Caught inside this tidal wave)
Your cover's blown
No where to go
Holding your fate
(Loaded I will walk alone)

[Bridge:]
Fire your guns
It's time to run
Blow me away
(I will stay, in the mess I made)
After the fall
We'll shake it off
Show me the way

[Chorus:]
Only the strongest will survive
Lead me to heaven, when we die
I am the shadow on the wall
I'll be the one to save us all

Don't want it back
(Don't fight me now)
Sravan, I told u about this song, remember? Duck, were u just talking about me, because Prince Marth is the short kid who is trailing his sister, not me.
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Chunks does the Truffle Shuffle"

Submitted by TheKoolAidGuy on Wed, 09/07/2005 - 7:43pm

thank u for posting the lyrics when they can just listen to the song.
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What did I do?

Wow the clan points got rescored the Turtle clan is now in the lead.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

The entire clan points got reworked.
1 Turtle Clan 3130
2 Skillz dat killZ 3080
3 Trouble Monkey Clan 2730
4 Black Shark 1340
5 Vaccinated Monks 1340
6 Turtle clan 2(T Unit) 600

What Scarecrow?

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

sooo...why do we have less points now? sravan and galens points combine make over 3000...someone plz explain.
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This doesn't make sense. On the leaderboard, some teams should have more points, some should have less. I don't get it.

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"Chunks does the Truffle Shuffle"

Well, monkeyman, what happened to your "massive owning"?
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wtf happened to the leaderboard most of the clans lost points. i liked the old leaderboard better. haha duck u guys lost to black shark's clan but it was only by 10. if u stall in melee then u are the lion cuz u dont have any courage to fight.
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Current Clan Leaderboard
(Updated Live)
Place Clan Name Members Total Points
1 Turtle Clan TurtlePerson2
Bad driver
anti snowman
Padouk 3130
2 Skillz dat killZ Earnist Da Chicken
J's Coolio
Monkeyman
Doomblaze 3080
3 Trouble Monkey Clan Joe S
c0N
pr0
Derek 2730
4 Black Shark Black Shark
Nick11
N/A
Nilofar 1340
5 Vaccinated Monks Duck
super sunflower
Evil Bus Driver
Figwit 1340
6 Turtle clan 2(T Unit Stravoli
Snowman
Darth Marth
Tru dog 600
This is mostly wrong 4 the points
My clan score is normal w/o bp's, so its fine. But...................................................................
TP2 Clan should have 3765 points
SDKZ Clan should have 4000 points
TM Clan should have 3665 points
BS Clan should have 1340 points
VM Clan should have 1330 points
and TC2 Clan should have 310 points
There u go, Sravan y r u insulting my clan like that? We're pretty good. U just wait.
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"Chunks does the Truffle Shuffle"

Submitted by TheKoolAidGuy on Thu, 09/08/2005 - 5:33pm

u are wrong paduk wasent there so JFinn subed for him and derek wasent there so rod subed for him. just cuz one of the primaries werent there doesnt mean u can count him as a 0 we have subs. u sure are pretty good...
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Sravan My clan didn't lose with bonus points we are a head of black shark's clan. The real loser is you because you lost 1000+ points.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

so what in gaming u still lost to him not that its a bad thing. u will beat him next tournament anyway. yes correct the leaderboard please.
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Ahem, my current rank is higher then Black sharks so I didn't lose to him.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

shut up everyone!!!!!!!!!!!1
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where r u eli!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Submitted by TheKoolAidGuy on Thu, 09/08/2005 - 6:11pm

omid cant even hold the shift button. when i say u i meant ur clan.
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wouldn't it be easier to use the caps lock rather than the shift button,

oh by the way tp2

TIL SKILPADDEN DRAR DET øDELEGGER

okay, i think i got it right this time, but the program only supplies a one way translation in norwegian, so i am not sure...........

PLEASE COUNT ME AMONGST THE CONFUSED, WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED TO THE LEADER BOARD?, how are the score calculated, how is the turtle clan in first? i am so confused!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Okay folks, something is a little tripped up in the leaderboards right now. I will be looking at it in earnest tomorrow. Rest assured that the points will be calculated correctly and that none of the results have been lost.

-- UPDATE --

Okay, the Clan affiliations for the Championship round needed to be reset and things are looking a little better. If there's any tweaking that still needs to happen, we'll take care of it before the next tourney.

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BCL the caps lock doesnt work for numbers and u cant hold it all the way either but niether can i sometimes. duck look at it this way ur clan didn't lose to noah's clan. BTW omid and nick and nilofar u guys should make a mutiny and change the name cuz he black shark clan is well u get my point.
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I would like a podcast so I can relive the moments of victory over the trouble monkeys.

Oh yeah can someone please remove the Vaccinated Monk subs off the primaries list. That is everyone but me.

A podcast is an MP3 file that is basically a pre-recorded radio show. The type of things I am thinking of would be a recap of the most recent tournament, round by round, interviews with people (I have a nifty way to make people's voices sound like they're on the telephone :-D). I would also have a strategy section, a preview of things coming up, etc.

It's nothing incredibly special, but I think it would be kind of a cool thing, and it would help people keep up with whats going on in other ways than just the message boards.

...And it's free. Which is always a plus. :-D

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WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!?!?!?!?!??

Submitted by Sir Ducksalot on Fri, 09/09/2005 - 10:59pm

I wounder what is taking up all their timw so that they can't respond to anything except the big stuff.

5 bucks says eli avoiding us.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

Jump SuperStar looks awesome, but it is only in Japanese rite now. I would like 2 fight as Goku or Monkey D. Luffy. The leaderboard is still messed up. My clan shouldn't be behind Duck's clan! Duck's clan should have 1330 points. How would they get 1360 points. It still doesn't make any sense. Eli, please speak 2 us! R U still ALIVE!

"Chunks does the Truffle Shuffle"

Submitted by TheKoolAidGuy on Sat, 09/10/2005 - 8:47am

noah is in love with DBZ its not that good of a show thats y they moved it ot saturdays a while ago. the podcast sounds cool but it wont be nessecary (i spelled that wrong)for the grand champs cuz we get a dvd. im not sure if i want 1 yet. noah is right the leaderboard is messed up we used to have 3850 but we now have 3840! yes where is eli?
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Tom while, a Podcast is an interesting idea I don't see why someone would want to listen to someone play a video game. It would be like listening to a movie instead of watching it. The strategy idea is interesting, but overall I think that it just isn't worth it.
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Eli at the last tournament not everyone used their name during the melee matches. A player who doesn't have one is at an advantage. I think that there either has to be a rule requiring players to put the name above their head or to just get rid of them and save time.
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If you remembered Sravan Eli said the DVD was going to mainly be highlights of season.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

Duck you might be right, but I thought he said they would have season high lights as part of the grands DVD. Not the grands being part of the season DVD.

"TORTURIS EXUVIAS EUNT"

If you noticed they had trouble fitting 4 hours on I don't think they are going to be able to fit 5 hours plus the clan cup and the season highlights. So I pretty sure they are going to cut some of the grand out.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

y would they cut the grands out. maybe they should show a little bit from each tournament including the grands like the final round. i didn't use my name cuz i couldnt find it and the people were impatient. how are they at an advantage u should be able to see someone when they have the cloaking devise if u have good eyes. BTW i dont think there should be a suprise round for the december tournament cuz when u are playing for gift certificates its ok but when u are competing for a prize much more valuable then u dont want to play a game that u dont know. practice makes perfect. also with the clan cup finals we should do a mix of melee and mario kart events.
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Can you read Sravan I said <em><strong>SOME</em></strong> of the grand’s out maybe not show the wildcard or some of the qualification round. Oh so you don't want to notice that the OMEGATHON II had 10gs of prizes and that was built around Surprise games to determine who was the best Overall gamer.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

OMG, just fix the leaderboard! My clan is suppose 2 be in 4th place. All of u guys should go 2 the aadlgt site and add up all the players' from each clans' scores. U will all agree with me.

"Chunks does the Truffle Shuffle"

Submitted by TurtlePerson2 (not verified) on Sun, 09/11/2005 - 2:01pm

Duck it's just like a football game. Only 1/3 of the time is actually playing. Take out the wild card and the ads and you'll have a dvd that is about one and a half hours long. I know this from experience.
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By the way does anyone know the html for creating a download.
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"<em>Duck it's just like a football game. Only 1/3 of the time is actually playing. Take out the wild card and the ads and you'll have a dvd that is about one and a half hours long. I know this from experience."</em>

Okay, because, you know, it's <strong>really</strong> fair to cut out the wild card tournament to those who competed in it. Just because they didn't compete in the whole tournament process doesn't mean they shouldn't get airtime too. And yes, Sravan, more ties would be a bad thing to have.

Yay for Eli for getting into the PAX video, that's amazing. :-D

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, <strong>I</strong> found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took <em>credit</em> for finding!"

i meant that ties were a bad thing that is the only down side to my plan. u guys gonna make a logo?
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Ah, OK. Yeah, we're working on a logo. We had an idea last night, and it was a really good one, but we couldn't quite pull it off with the equipment we had.

By the way, Sravan, would you want to be one of the first interviewees for the podcast?

And Beebles' name shall remain masked in confusion until such time as he sees fit to reveal it to you.

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, <strong>I</strong> found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took <em>credit</em> for finding!"

sure i will be one of the interviewees for the podcast. the old one was 100,60,30,10 and i heard many people complaining that their 2 2nd places didnt beat or tie with 1 1st and 1 3rd. the best way to decide the scoring system is for someone to give an estimate of how many people we will be expecting at the tournament eli? BTW i didnt see the ad in quality 16 yet. o yea last time i heard 25% of the people didnt bring their release forms so it wasent televised. hasent everyone on the blog won a prize of something in all of axis(noah got 3rd in a madden tournament and i got 2nd last year in august against joe and tom) i remember that tom was in 1st place on the home strech in baby park and a master shell hits him and he drops to 3rd meanwhile i am behind joe when i get a mushroom and i boost right beside him and we are pushing eachother but he was closer the the finish line.
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Yes, I remember that too.

It made me cry on the inside.

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, <strong>I</strong> found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took <em>credit</em> for finding!"

ouch i just stepped on a tack. how do u do captions for ur links like when u put ur mouse over it a thing will pop up saying something about it like in eli's PAX post it says reference on kareokee DDR thing.
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Go Lions, by the way. Let's see if we can't actually win more that 5 games or so this season...

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, <strong>I</strong> found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took <em>credit</em> for finding!"

When I said it was like football I didn't mean that the only difference between the grands and the superbowl is that Eli doesn't wear stripes. What I meant is that a lot of the grands can be cut.
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By the way Tom I fully support cutting the wild card out of the DVD. It took too long plus I personally haven't met any wild cards who watched the wild card portion. The wild card portion doesn't have any helpful strategy tid bits.
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I think you are biased on this issue Tom. I'm sure you can figure out why.
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BCL don't discuss the web site on the blog. Just so TC members know it will be online soon. I only have one download so far however, by the end of today I should have the second.
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Submitted by tomcove6888 on Mon, 09/12/2005 - 9:35pm

Yes, Steven, I <strong>know</strong> that you support cutting the wildcard tournament portion of the DVD. Just because Your Highness wants shorter coverage of the tournament doesn't mean it should be cut from the DVD. I'm not just saying that because I want to hear myself commentate; I, unlike some people on this message board, do not have my ego wrapped up in something as trivial as that, and I am insulted that you think so. If I wanted to hear myself talk, I could just watch the finals round after I got knocked out, I commentated then, too. (I even commentated on the final match, when Duck <strong>took a dive</strong> because he wanted the DS more than the iPod.)
Furthermore, if you were to listen, the Wild Card tournament is where Daniel and I commented about the various strategies that the wildcard competitors should have been using. Obviously, this contained no informational value to you whatsoever. The only problem in this case is that I could give a rip whether you think it's informational or not. It may not be to you, but then again, you're the one who came in here and knocked Smolarski off of his pedestal (an act for which I am <em>still</em> greatful to you for, don't get me wrong).

This may seem really evil and nasty, but it's not really directed towards you as a person. I'm still angry about other people's posts in other places, so don't take any of this as an insult. That being said, do take it at face value. I mean everything I say, just not necessarily the way I say it.

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, <strong>I</strong> found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took <em>credit</em> for finding!"

Eli Basically said that It would be 2 DVD set. And I didn't say "season highlights w/ a little grands" I said they were going to cut some of the grands out. It just might happen that the wildcard and season highlights are on one DVD while the Grands and clan cup on the other but does it really matter we have no say in how the DVD is made because they have to work on it and figure out what works and what doesn't work. It more of a technical thing then a opinion thing.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

Well, I will be happy to answer questions about a possible DVD especially here in a thread that at least has something to do with AADL-GT. Please make an effort to stay on topic, guys. I know we're in the habit of simply continuing the conversation in whatever unfortunate post happens to be at the top of the axis blog, but that's not really how it's supposed to work. We kind of crapped all over that Katrina thread, and I don't want that to happen again. *exit scold mode*

Frankly, I think this 'what is eli going to cut from the season 2 DVD' discussion is premature and irrelevant, since you guys know I'm going to put whatever I want on there. I think the wildcard tournament is one of the best parts of the season 1 DVD, and it has a lot of entertainment value. The season highlights probably won't be very long at all, we'll see as the season goes on how many highlights we have. I am not going to cut something good from the DVD to save space. It can be a multi-DVD set, whatever. Duck is right that it's a primarily technical decision. We will make the best DVD we can with the footage we have. Let's not resort to fisticuffs about it.

Duck is also right about the release forms. It's a one-time thing. If you've ever given us one at a tournament, you don't need to worry about it again.

TP2, is this talk of downloads referring to your clan logo? If so, don't worry about it, Eric is working on a super easy way to insert your clan logo that you should be able to put in your signature so you don't even have to think about it. So stay tuned for that.

Also, Sravan, I'm not sure how many people we'll have this month, but I think it's likely that we won't have as many as we did in August, now that school and sports and such have started. The event not being televised had nothing to do with release forms, it was simply a technical mishap on CTN's end. They don't have staff there on the weekends, and someone forgot to program the transmitter to switch to our feed.

However, I'm interested in your scoring proposal, Sravan, so I will pose this question for debate:

If one player finishes 2nd twice in Melee, and another player finished 1st and then 3rd, who should have more points? Or should they be tied?

actully i just found out that i am coming my friends bar-mitsvah is at 8 ><

I think they should tie because it would be more fair but then it would take up more time hmmmmmm... ya we should probley have them tie because that is how i think of the rules in my own little special world and no none of you are invited sorry i had to say that =P

12 more days until the tournament yay =)

"And get your feet off that blasted Samoflan. What the f*** is a Samoflan?"

First off, I think that we shouldn't have a system that creates more ties, but that's just me. If I had to pick, I would say that I think the person who won a single time should win the tie, because they obviously tried hard enough to win. If the person who finished second two times just stalled or something, it wouldn't be fair for them to win. Yeah, their performance has been more consistent, but they never actually won a match.
Like I said, if we don't want to have to worry about this, we should leave the scoring system the way it is right now.
And sorry about the other post thing. I didn't realize that it was viewed by people other than us. Is there any way we can link to the AADL-GT message boards right away? whenever I type in http://www.aadl.org/aadlgt, it just takes me right to the leaderboard stuff. Is there supposed to be a separate message board?

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, <strong>I</strong> found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took <em>credit</em> for finding!"

I think that two 2nds should beat a 1st and a 3rd. Consistency is a better show of skill then a 1st that you may have got from a lucky break.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

Hmm... I think we should try to avoid ties, but it does seem equal. I think I'll have to abstain on this issue. I've already switch arguments in my head enough to cover all three ways, so i just don't know. I'm just going to go play Melee and let Eli tell me what my score is.

"There is no spoon." -Neo

as much as i hate to agree with duck i agree with duck consistincy is better than luck. so a third and a second should be more than a first and a fourth well im done talking about this issue until it takes a new turn

"If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done quickly."

it is almost the same scoring as mario kart but in mario kart 8 ppl play at once and in melee 4 ppl play so there is a higher chance of someone tieing. in the next tournament we are not going to only have 2 qualifying matches to get into the eliminations right? so after maybe 5 or 6 matches there wont be a lot of ties. i think that we should keep the scoring system the way i proposed it. tom joe got like 3 1sts but 1 8th last year and he should have won but he didnt cuz mini blin got a handful of 2nds and 3rds. since there will be less people then last time there is a lower chance of someone tieing with multiple players but it will happen sometimes. we are still doing 1v1 march madness right?

one weird thing in mario kart is after 4th place is goes down by ones i never understood that but if we focus on the top 4 places they decrease by 2 just like my proposal decreases by 30.
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Submitted by pensar tortuga on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 6:35pm

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Submitted by TheKoolAidGuy on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 6:54pm

whats with the spanish verbs?
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yo no hablo inglés

realmente hablo inglés es apenas que necesito estudiar para una prueba pasado mañana

Submitted by TheKoolAidGuy on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 7:08pm

como te llamas?

Black Shark did u know they took gullible out of the dictionary?
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Submitted by pensar tortuga on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 7:26pm

me llamo Umberto Gonzales y usted?

Deben retirarse más funcionarios a causa de la respuesta del gobierno al Huracán Katrina?

ESTO MUY LO INTERESA ESTA ACERCA DE FIGURAS SIGNIFICATIVAS

Los números en la Ciencia

Cuándo científicos miden una cantidad, ellos miden realmente dos datos -- el valor que ellos piensan que ellos han medido, y la incertidumbre. Esto se puede indicar como "medimos diez, más o menos uno", y a menudo científicos utilizan estos términos. Sin embargo, esta anotación obtiene incómodo rápidamente. Necesitamos una estrategia diferente. Los científicos ponen sólo los dígitos ellos pueden ser razonablemente ciertos de en sus números. Ellos quizás digan, por ejemplo, que ellos midieron "10." cm. Esto es realmente diferente del dicho que ellos midieron "10" cm. El uso del punto decimal indica que el científico está seguro de ambos dígitos a algún grado razonable -- es 10. algo, no 11 ni 9, aunque redondeando ambos de estos números a de un dígito da 10.

El número "10." es dicho tener dos dígitos significativos, o las figuras significativas, el 1 y el 0. El número 1,0 tienen también dos dígitos significativos. Así que hace el número 130, pero 10 y 100 sólo tienen uno "higo de sig" como escrito. Ceros que sólo tienen los lugares no se consideran para ser significan T.

¿Así, cómo indica un científico que dos de los dígitos en 100 son significativos?? Nosotros no podemos poner en un punto decimal para hacer sólo 100. porque eso indicaría 3 dígitos. ¿Qué debemos hacer nosotros?

Los científicos utilizan la anotación científica para manejar este problema. La anotación científica se cerciora que todo pero el primer dígito de un número no están después del lugar de decimal y por lo tanto o cierto o utilizados. Aquí están algunos numeran en la anotación científica para estudiar:

(1) 1000 1x103 -- tan un higo (2) de sig 0,001 1x10-3 -- tan un higo (3) de sig 100. 1.00x102 -- tan tres
higos (4) de sig 0,00100 1.00x10-3 -- tan tres higos (5) de sig 100 (con dos higos de sig) 1.0x102 -- tan dos
higos de sig

¿Ve las diferencias? En el primer y segundo ejemplo, los ceros son realmente sólo poseedores de lugar. En el tercer ejemplo, el lugar extraordinario de decimal se utiliza para significar que somos cierto de tres dígitos. En el cuarto ejemplo los ceros extra (en el derecho!) son utilizados para indicar que tenemos la certeza extra. En el quinto ejemplo, nosotros finalmente hemos visto para cómo representar 100 con exactamente dos higos de sig.

La Anotación científica en Su Calculadora aquí está de un solo sentido para escribir a máquina estos números
en su calculadora:

2.183x103 - 1.1x10-2 = 2,183 * 10 ^ 3 - 1,1 * 10 ^ -2 = 2182,989 Cuando usted utiliza su calculadora, escribiendo a máquina "algo tiempos diez al algo" repetidamente otra vez obtiene para ser un dolor. La mayoría de las calculadoras tienen un botón de "EE", para ayudarle fuera. EE significa "tiempos diez al", para que:

¡2.183x103 - 1.1x10-2 = 2,183 EE 3 - 1,1 EE -2 = 2182,989 Nota que cuando usted escribe a máquina la llave de EE, la mayoría de las calculadoras imprimen simplemente "E"! No sea alarmado por esto. Esto no es
la E que significa el error.

¡Tenga cuidado! ¡Es fácil de hacer el siguiente el error común: Recuerda que EE -- tiempos diez al -- no es el mismo como ^ -- "al"!
¡4 EE 1 iguala 40 (hace como 4 * 10^1), no 4! ¿Nuestra próxima pregunta necesita ser, "lo que sucede al número de higos de sig cuando realizamos los cálculos?"

Cuándo científicos calculan con higos de sig, la precisión del resultado debe reflejar la incertidumbre de los números que entraron. ¿Si usted agrega 0,25 a 100, dado que 100 sólo tienen un higo de sig y por lo tanto nosotros no confiamos aún los dos ceros, usted puede decir realmente que usted tiene 100,25? ¡Eso estaría diciendo que usted estaba seguro el primer 100 era, de hecho, 100,00! ¿Si el 100 tuvieron cinco higos de sig, por qué alguien no dijo tan? La multiplicación tiene también las reglas acerca de esto. ¿Qué es las reglas, exactamente?

Agregar y Restar Cuando usted agrega o resta con higos de sig, mira donde el higo más de la derecha de sig está en cada número. El número que tiene su higo más de la derecha de sig en el lugar más alto gobierna lo que es significativo en el resultado. El reloj:

1,0750 + 32,110.31 = 32,111.3850 dura higo de sig:. 000x. 0x utiliza el. 0x (el lugar más alto) = 32,111.39

Tenga cuidado cuando los números están en la anotación científica:

¿9.96x104 + 2.51x103 = 99.6x103 + 2.51x103 = 102.11x103 = 102.1x103 = 1.021x105 lo que hicimos??

La manera más fácil de agregar algo (si nosotros no tenemos una calculadora) está a primero "la línea arriba los dígitos" apropiadamente; con números en la anotación científica que significa que necesitamos reordenarlos para que los poderes de 10 igual. Recuerde la regla empírica:

para mover el punto a la izquierda de un dígito, aumente el poder por 1 en mover el derecho del punto de un
dígito, disminuya el poder por 1

Nosotros entonces agregamos los dígitos (99,6 + 2,51), y notamos que el higo más de la derecha de sig estaría en el. el lugar X en el resultado.

Ultimamente ponemos la espalda del número en la anotación científica apropiada (la izquierda de un dígito de decimal).

Multiplicar y Dividir Cuando usted multiplica o divide, usted mira cuántos higos de sig están en cada número. El más bajo de éstos es el número de higos de sig que el resultado tendrá. Esto es más fácil y realmente más común en la química:

3.212x104 * 2.51x103 = 80621200 = Nota 8.06x107 que el número más pequeño de higos de sig es tres tan ponemos tres en el resultado.

La exponenciación (inclusive raíz cuadrada) los trabajo como la multiplicación -- desde que se basa en la multiplicación.

Sravan, gullible is still in the dictionary, jk lol. Who is this spanish kid? Me no good a espanol. Porque es kumo statas pour bavour komo es stas el gato burrito taco enchilata quesidilla fajita senoir senorita.

"Irony makes me Lethargic"
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LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO. Noah i cant belive u actually looked it up did it say Noah Trobe as the defanition? if not then its on the ceiling.

me llamo lorenzo en la clase de espanol. talk about off topic.
isnt it y tu instead of y usted? or wait usted means u talk to someone important so thank you dude.

i bet noah actually looked at the ceiling
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WHat the heck, can someone translate?!?!!?!?!?
by the way tp2 you were right temperature should be a funamental quantity but our teacher did not mention it

length meter m
mass kilogram kg
time second s
electric current ampere A
thermodynamic temperature kelvin K
amount of substance mole mol
luminous intensity candela cd

No I can't translate, but it is just a bunch of science about Sig. Figs with quite a few math errors.

We keep gaining new people on the blog but they only make a few posts then never come back. What ever happened to musicman?

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

Submitted by tomcove6888 on Wed, 09/14/2005 - 7:27am

Um, hey, if you guys are going to waste space with such useless crap like that, could you maybe do it on your own message board, rather than wasting space in here? Because don't try to deny it, it is pretty useless. Interesting, but useless.

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, <strong>I</strong> found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took <em>credit</em> for finding!"

I sorry how can you say it's like football? A football game is designed to be 1 hour of play yet runs for 3 hours while our system is designed for about 4 hours 20 mins of play and runs 6 hours. Football games have 300% inflation while our tournament only has about 140% inflation.

I'm pretty sure the reason it wasn't televised was because they hadn't set-up it up with CTN to broadcast it.

"You may need to metaphorically make a deal with the devil. By 'devil' I mean robot devil and by 'metaphorically' I mean get your coat."

Submitted by Airforce on Sun, 09/11/2005 - 3:52pm

um, TP2 do you mean you want people do download something from your site?

just point the link to the location of the file,though you'll have to give people access to that location, so this is not a good thing to do to your personal computer (sorry i meant you Mac). AS for the actual syntax i can show you sometime later.......

TP2 nosotros necesitamos hablar en español
1 stones is equal to 224 ounces
how many pico bytes are in an exabyte?
1.0 × 10^30
what is the abreviation for nano?

and by the way: for those who say you can use the enlish system better then metric cough, tp2, cough
furlong = 10 chains = 220 yards = 660 feet = 201.168 m

1 chain = 4 poles = 22 yards = 66 feet = 20.1168 m

1 rod, pole or perch = 5½ yards = 16½ feet = 5.0292 m

1 league = 3 miles = 5280 yards = 15840 feet = 4.828 032 km

did you have these conversions memorized tp2 no?
how about these

1 hogshead (of beer) = 3 kilderkin = 6 firkin = 54 gal. = 245.488 86 L

1 fluid dram or fluidram = 3 fluid scruples = 60 minims = 3.551 632 812 5 mL

and of course stones!
1 quarter = 2 stones = 28 pounds = 12.700 586 36 kg

- THEY CALL ME CRAZY!

by the way, i think that the scoring system is fine, too many ties are a pain, so leave the scoring system as is

李 治 學 logging out

Auf Wiedersehen-

Steven, the podcast wouldn't be listening to people play video games. It would be a recap of the most recent tournament. Something along the lines of "In the first round, such-and-such won three out of the four battles to come in first, while other-person finsished second all four times to end up getting third place" or something like that. You're probably right, it still wouldn't be worth it, but who knows. I might do it anyways.

And yes, everyone should be forced to have a name, or not have one. It's not fair to have half and half.

This sucks. It looks like Michigan is about 2 lose 2 Notre Dame. Speaking of Football, Eli, can u maybe bring cable TV into the MP Room so we can watch the Michigan football games during the tournament?

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"Chunks does the Truffle Shuffle"

Where's Sravan been lately? I bet he's watching Ocean's 12 or somethin'. It's just a guess.

"Chunks does the Truffle Shuffle"
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noah u read my away message. did MI lose yet i was sleeping? ocean's twelve is actually a good movie. tom on the podcast is it like a cd that u listen to and everyone gets one?
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Here's a list of leaders of clans(these guys also represent the guy 2 rely on in your clan, AKA, the "key" player)
SDKZ-Earnist Da Chicken
TC-TurtlePerson2
TM-c0n
BS-Nick11
VM-Duck
TC2-Darth Marth

"Chunks does the Truffle Shuffle"
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noah galen just won the suprise round we are the 2 key players. maybe the next time it will be a game that he has never heard of. noah even though the BS clan(lmao BS!) has 10 more points then the vaccinated monks they will beat u by recruitment bonuses. u only got 2 players he got 4 plus muffincat if she counts for his clan cuz mini blin's clan isnt on the leaderboard.
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Submitted by eli Staff on Sat, 09/10/2005 - 6:24pm

IIIIIIII'VVVVVVVVVVEEEE
BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN
BUUUUUUUUUSSSSYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

Sorry guys. Here, for your reading enjoyment, is the answer to every single solitary unanswered question asked of me in this thread.

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1747|Duck]: You know my inclination was always to leave the game as is. I think the conversation ultimately led to that conclusion as well. So, no banned items, no banned stages, items set to medium.

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1753|Monkey…]: Mail me your clan logo at axis@aadl.org and I'll add it to the list. A new feature will be coming soon that will make it much easier to insert your clan logo into your posts.

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1770|Prince Marth]: There's no way we'll have time for 4 stock, 6 minute battles with this kind of turnout. I really like the 2-stock, 3 minute format, I think it's exciting and high stakes, which is what makes for a good tournament. However, I hope to never have to do a 1-stock battle again, that was only because I didn't want to completely ditch the team melee event last month.

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1747|Sravan]: The October tournament will be very similar, number of matches will depend on turnout, but there will not be a team event unless the turnout is really low, which I am not anticipating. If your recruits won't come to the blog, just have them mention it at the registration desk next month and we'll start adding in recruitment bonuses.

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1800|Prince Marth]: We have a lot of improvements planned for the next tournament. Your luck is up to you. =)

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1805|Black Shark]: Hate to string you along, but I'll make a detailed post about commentating, including announcing who the commentator teams will be, soon. It will not be open mic, and few of those who attempted to commentate last month will mkae the cut. Stay tuned.

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1819|jlgeli…]: Your characteristically well-reasoned response makes some good points, but I think [http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1820|Leinad] countered them very well. I would imagine that the stalling problems could be self-correcting. If you see it happening in your match, and you think it's cheap, go do something about it.

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1840|Black Shark]: There was a mixup at the first tournament, where Omid's dad and Omid were both registered for some events. I got the clan list wrong, but all the even registrations were right, so your score won't change.

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1842|Black Shark]: On Sunday, 9/4/2005, at 1:31pm, I believe I was at Old Navy with my family and my parents, who were visiting, shopping for clothes for the baby girl we're expecting in October. When we left, a car was driving away, and someone yelled 'Eliiiiiiii' out the window. I think it was Julian Mourad. Blog posts that close for comments won't be deleted, theoretically ever. That's the log part of blog, every post every made is there if you keep going back. The new leaderboard I believe you've all discovered.

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1847|Prince Marth]: The next all ages DDR tournament is Sunday, 9/25/05, at Malletts Creek at 1:00 PM. We'll also have one downtown at 1:00 PM the Friday after Thanksgiving. We'll also have DDR open play and a tournament during Holiday break.

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1858|Sravan]: I don't know what character the winner of the PAX SSB tournament used, I didn't stay 'till the end because I wanted to go to the concert. The cup thing actually doesn't help at all, since the game doesn't keep score of course. It does save some time in moving around, but it makes it harder to move on if you're stuck with the same good players for all your matches. So, we'll stick with our system, except that we'll go splitscreen. Depending on turnout, I'd prefer to not do splitscreen for the team event, but if we're running behind, it's an easy change to make.

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1862|Prince Marth]: most of our tournaments are on MAX2. We will get extreme2 when it comes out, but if it balances the scores as much as extreme did, it won't be well-suited for a tournament.

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1871|Black Shark]: At the time of your post, you'll see I had just posted three days ago. =) The easiest way to do a link is to just put the url, including the http:// , inside of square brackets, on the same key as your curly backets, above the return key.

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1877|Tom]: A podcast would be an absolutely incredible idea. If you produce it (and we can help), we can put it on our servers and set up the feed. We may even be able to get it added to the iTunes podcast directory. Monthly would be cool, a recap of each tournament indeed. Awesome idea.

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1880|Duck]: The only people wearing badges should be Library Employees. Everyone in the room knows who has the authority (yours truly), and that has advantages. POWER TRIP!

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1882|Flare]: Just because I neglected to post for 3 days does not mean I enjoy watching you argue. It just so happens that I do enjoy watching you argue, but that's not why I hadn't posted.

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1901|Duck]: Whew, flame off. Flare is a good guy, and if you notice, he is generally pretty considerate in his posts. Also, watch out, I grew up in Kansas. =)

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1904|Duck]: Hey, that's a good idea. We could do that. I'm just worried that someone might fill it up with overreactive, flame-laden rants. =) Just because I like watching you argue doesn't mean I like watching you pick on each other. Good debates don't include ad hominem attacks.

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1912|Duck]: I've added Tom to the Vaccinated Monks, but Leinad hasn't visited his [:/aadlgt|GT] page yet, which he needs to do before he shows up in the clan database.

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1936|Prince Marth]: Your account looks okay to me. As for your questions, I think I'm almost caught up.

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1939|Black Shark]: You get a referral bonus for any new player you bring to a tournament, even if they sub for you. Wednesday Evening, at 6:43 PM, I believe my family was at dinner with my wife's mother and sisters, and our 6-month old niece.

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1980|Tom]: Last night, at 10:44 PM, I had just returned from Mount Pleasant, where Erin and I had given a workshop at the Chippewa River District Library, on Videogames as a Service, and how they might replicate AADL-GT at their libraries. When we do these presentations, (we've done them in Chicago, and we're going to Houston in April), we show part of the Grand Championship DVD, and we take all the equipment and make the librarians play DDR and have a real Mario Kart tournament with my crappy old schwag prizes. MLA is the Michigan Library Association, who sponsored the workshop.

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1981|Duck]: It's just, you know, the rest of our jobs that's taking up all our time. You lose your five bucks. =)

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1983|Black Shark]: You're right, the clan scores are still a little off. Eric will check it out.

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1984|Sravan]: This morning at 8:47 AM, I was in bed, asleep.

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1985|TP2]: You're right, some people weren't using their name, it was mostly people who didn't get registered before we copied the memory cards so their names weren't on the list. Because we were so rushed and not live anyway, I told them to not worry about it. Hopefully it won't be a problem next round.

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1990|Sravan]: You can count on the final, prize winning match being a surprise game, maybe even a different game than the semifinal rounds.

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1989|Duck]: We'll only have that problem if we trying to fit it on only 1 disc. =)

[http://www.aadl.org/node/512?comments_per_page=1000#comment-1994|Black Shark]: I'm not interested in offering the TV broadcast of the UM game during the tournament, but if Eric is there, you can be sure he'll have a live score window open on his Mac.

Okay, I think that's got it. Any other questions? More to come....

wow eli that was very impressive. last year in december we had the 4 races to gather points and get into the top 16, will those be suprise games too ro will they be mario kart and melee cuz i really think they should be mario kart and melee. if we do it that way then it will be like the other tournaments where u play mario kart and melee first then the best ppl of those play a suprise game.

we are still going to be using the space behind the big screen and the other room where the commentators and people who arent playing stay right? eli we should get actual songs to play at the tournament(sensored of course). like we can play sandstorm and other techno songs or we can play the songs on the top of the charts. if we do that dont u have to mention them in the credits for copyright reasons. so the DDR tournament on the 25th will not have the gamecubes?

if i am going to use pr0 i might as well change my axis name to it as well.
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Submitted by California Love on Sat, 09/10/2005 - 7:10pm

OMG, eli has spoken, now please be a dear and talk 2 eric about the leaderboard, And also, do u get recruitment bonuses just 4 bringing a new player even if he isn't subbing 4 u? [http://www.aadl.org/aadlgt] Yea! it works.

"Chunks does the Truffle Shuffle"
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Yay! Eli's not dead!!
Ok, I can start planning the first podcast.

Sravan, the podcasts will be put up here (I'm assuming), and you can download them. I bet if I ask reealy nicely, I'll bet I can convince Eli to put them all on a CD and mass-produce them for distribution at the end of the season.

Sorry Eli, I was the "popular demand" that warranted Duck's flame of Flare, which he has admitted, was one of his lesser flames (but I still think it was pretty good).

That's all for now.

Eli, say someone wanted 2 bring their boombox 2 play some music during the tournament, could he/she?

"Chunks does the Truffle Shuffle"
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yea eli can me and noah bring a boombox in? we promise we wont be like the noise makers. whats the 4th vaccinated monk's real name?
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The entire Vaccinated Monk clan is together at bubblnigbeebles house right now along with some other people, and they have told me to post that we unanimously disagree with Black Shark's boombox idea. Allow me to reiterate that these are the opinions of Leinad, Tom, Duck and beebles.

"There is no spoon." -Neo

Submitted by California Love on Sat, 09/10/2005 - 10:57pm

Sravan, u need 2 post more. I dare ya 2 post at least one within each hour(except bed times of course), if u have plans, then post it, and u can cancel my dare, come on Sravan, do it, and then do the truffle shuffle.

"Irony makes me Lethargic"
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i have already posted enough how can i post when i am sleeping(me and noah are talking on AIM)
haha u edited ur post
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Here is a quiz about me, your average Black Shark. It is a quiz that certain people(pr0, c0n) can't answer.

Quiz #1
How big is my TV(the one I practice MKDD and SSBM on).
A.32"
B.72"
C.46"
D.55"

#2
I have a Vending Machine.
A.True
B.False

Give me your answers, and then do the truffle shuffle.

"Irony makes me Lethargic"
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Submitted by California Love on Sat, 09/10/2005 - 11:34pm

I saw him, it was like, rite at the beginning. How could u not see that bushy hair and goatee. OMG. I realized the beginning music of the video, it was from megaman. I'm surprised they didn't have DBZ as one their events, o well. can u try 2 get PAX into Ann Arbor, Michigan, that would be so great.

"Irony makes me Lethargic"
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Submitted by Sir Ducksalot on Sun, 09/11/2005 - 12:06am

He's like 26 seconds in for half a second on the right.

Oh yeah black shark you do relize that the Vaccinated Monk clan was completely composed of subs so that "key player" overview doesn't really give you any clue if I'm the best in my clan.

Eli for Figwit and only Figwit can you just give us the points for her she just moved to Cal. so she can't really show-up for the next tournament.

"Why am I sticky and naked, did I miss something fun?"-Fry

noah that is impossible to get a PAX like event here. yes i did see him thanks to duck and no thanks to noah.
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Y no thanks 2 me? And everybody, we should have a moment of silence of what happened 4 years ago.

"Irony makes me Lethargic"
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we should be having a moment of silence for hurricane katrina too
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Thank u. Now it's time 4 some football! Lions at 4:15! I can't wait. Yea! I just made a new page!

"Irony makes me Lethargic"
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eli what do u think about changing the single melee scores to
1st-100
2nd-70
3rd-40
4th-10
if we change it to this then there will be a lot more ties.
Whoa i was reading one of the bungie fourms and some guy named snowman used the same quote as duck. gentlemen u cant fight here this is a war room.
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Bring a boombox? No way. Sorry. If that was the crux of your plan to neutralize the Noise Machine Clan, it's back to the drawing board for you.

As for the podcast, Tom, you should start by writing it. You don't need to write every word, you could start with something like 'Opening: Tom welcomes listeners, introduces Daniel, Tom and Daniel discuss the melee no banning decision, etc...'

You should plan who you want to interview, what music you want to play between segments, etc. I would highly recommend inviting Leinad to join you as your co-host; I think you'll find its a lot less work if you can essentially record a lightly pre-directed conversation. You guys ever see Pardon the Interruption? I would be happy to give an interview for each episode of the show if you'd like, to give it that 'official podcast of the AADL-GT tournament season' label.

If this takes off it could be very, very cool. Think about what might be in your podcast, email me about it, and we'll take it from there.

By the way, welcome, bubblingbeebles. That is a completely awesome handle.

wow ok thats super i didnt say 50 i havent used a name other than flare in weeks check your own spelling b4 you criticize others a comprimise was needed when i wrote that which was like 2 days before i posted it in fact when i posted it i felt like an insult to scare crows but do i really care you know flame me all you want i get like 30 times that at scxhool so youre words dont matter to me in fact i actully thought (thats right thought) youre insults could be a bit better i mean the scarecrow thing got boring after thhe first 3 jokes so if you are going flame me go right ahead just know that youre doing it to some1 who doesnt give a god**** mother******* s***

"Such foul and fair a day I have not seen"

<em>"i dont mind stalling i just feel bad for people who do cause 1 i will almost always kill that person 1st and 2 cause they cant play i really just hate people who stall and then try to beat people by using links up b and other pathicly cheap attaks oh and whoever hears leined's voice calling us stupid you can hear my voice calling him immature for saying that others are stupid for disagreeing with him oh BTW im all for randomness until it starts taking over fairness think about that for a while would you rather have a tournament based on luck where you lose to a n00b or a tournament of skill where you crush the n00b oh and 1 more thing all you people talking about not banning anything and all you people talking about banning things (including me) GROW UP AND COMPRIMISE LIKE ONLY BANNING 1 THING CAN YOU ALL LIVE WITH THAT INSTEAD OF BEING LITTLE BABIES BICKIRING OVER EVERY LITTLE THING I MEAN COME ON oh yeah omid shut up about the noise makers you are being more annoying then they were and black shark eli hasent posted because he likes wacthing us argue and because people are asking him questions he doesnt want to answer dont ask how i know this just accpet it OK EVERY BODY UNDERSTAND WHAT I JUST SAID WELL IF YOU DIDN'T PLEASE SAY SO NOW....... OR ELSE!!!!"</em>

Wow, what? You know, punctuation and proper capitalization would make your messages quite a bit more readable. A few comments.

1) stalling is not a cowards strategy, it is a smart strategy. I stall sometimes, and I'd like to see you "kill me first" as if you have any control over anything in the match.

2) lets look a couple opf quotes form this post: "calling him immature for saying that others are stupid for disagreeing" and later: "GROW UP AND COMPRIMISE LIKE ONLY BANNING 1 THING CAN YOU ALL LIVE WITH THAT INSTEAD OF BEING LITTLE BABIES BICKIRING OVER EVERY LITTLE THING I MEAN COME ON" hmm... a bit of anger at those who disagree with you, huh? And if you actually paid attention, I said that the arguments for banning were stupid, not the people making them (with the obvious exception of Flare, who is.)

3) "omid shut up about the noise makers you are being more annoying then they were" You're one to talk. You make Black Shark look like an eloquent and well liked politician.

Okay, I believe I've made all of my points. You may resume your grammar, punctuation, capitallization rules, sense and intelligence lacking posts.

oh, and I agree with Tom's commentary idea.

"There is no spoon." -Neo

And I've already made my opinion clear about items and stages being banned. Every time you hear someone make a case the other way, just hear my voice in your head pointing out how stupid they are.

1.you wrote that leined so if youre trying to say that you are calling the arguments stupid then you must be saying: that the case are stupid; which isnt even close to good grammer

2.If you paid attention to my comment i never called stalling cowardice and i said that i almost always kill stallers first i meant to say cowards that much i will admit

3.i actully wwas angry at the whole argument including my part in it (just in case you missed that to =P)

4. and i do make black shark look like a well liked politician but the well liked ones arn't always the best now are they(no offense black shark)

i think i will return to my how did you say it: You may resume your grammar, punctuation, capitallization rules, sense and intelligence lacking posts. oh i put all those letters in caps cause my finger brushed on the caps lock key and i didnt feel like fixing it

oh i agree with tom's commentary idea also

i said stalling is cowardly and it is. flare he meant omid when he said the thing about the politician. stalling is cowardly stalling means avoiding danger and running away and a coward is someone who doesnt want to do the thing cuz they think they will lose. my defination is a little vague but once leinad posts something countering my post i'm just gonna shut up cuz we shouldn't be arguing.
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HEY FLARE, I SAW YOU AT TAPPAN TODAY!!!
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oh well, oops, sry, cap locks, sry!

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Flare - you're right, I did day the peopel were stupid, I'm sorry, I meant to say that their arguments were stupid. And Prince Marth, that make the whole forum look like crap, so please go edit your post.

"There is no spoon." -Neo

this relates to last week but bad driver feel free to use my name but 1 time i teamed up with some1 who didnt fight anyways so it was more i wont kick youre a** cause 1 the other 2 were teaming up on me sort of i beat them both but i only had 1 life and like 107 damage on me while the other guy had 2 lives and 48 damage i killed him once before he beat me

WTF OMID! U ruined the blog. I have to use the side scroll 2 read everybody's posts! Edit it now! Or Eli(wherever he is) needs 2 use his admin powers 2 edit or erase omid's posts. And i dont get what u guys were saying earlier about me. R U guys insulting me or complimenting me? Heres what I have 2 say about the "new" commentating ideas. IT IS TOTAL BULLSH**. I'm not waitin' all the way until the Surprise round 2 commentate. I should be able 2 commentate on MKDD or SSBM also. "Screw u guys, I'm going home."
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"Chunks does the Truffle Shuffle"

OMID WTF MAN. FIX UR ****** POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

how can u guys have 9 new comments in the past like 45 minutes 9 dammit. noah eli is the one who decides the final commentating so we dont know. but i have an extended version of tom's commentating idea but i'm not going to say it until eli tells us who the real commentators are.
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i dont think he can edit his post cuz u can only edit ur last post and he made a post after that. omid u ************************* lol thats like a mad-lib.
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i just forgot to post this last time and i cant edit what i wrote for some reason but anyways :i belive i have counterd all youre posts

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no he was talking to me cause he even said youre 1 to talk and if he did direct it at omid im still gonna take it personally cause im stupid like that

Submitted by joesmo on Tue, 09/06/2005 - 11:17pm

hate you guys with every inch of my body...say 888 if you actualy read ducks long post. seriously u guys like live on this site...45 posts...STOP IT!!!hmm ohhhhh snap tomorow is activity day!! and if you go to mack school, do you know nick wallace?
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Submitted by Sir Ducksalot on Wed, 09/14/2005 - 3:50pm

Well that is weird. If you click the AADL-GT link at the top right of a board you only get the first 2 and these last 3 boards that means the pre-season and scoring and prize boards are not able to be seen.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

yea duck each of the blogs have different "catagories" in what u place them and u can see the katrina one is in another catagory. since this is axis.aadl.org all the blogs are in the axis catagory but not all of them are AADL-GT or teens. i wasent wasting space it was that spanish kid which is probably one of u 3 so u guys are the ones wasting space.(sorry if i'm wrong)

noah u said gullible was still in the dictionary.jk.lol so that means that u were kidding that it was in there so u really dont think its there but its written on ur forehead anyway so u can always look there lol.

what are flare and black shark doing up at midnight its a school night.
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Sorry haven't been on in a while. <br /><br />
This is a message meant for TC members the official TC website is up and running. The background isn't up yet, but one of the downloads works.
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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Eli, I'm gonna have a sub on the 24th and I wonder, I know that my sub's points will be toward our clan plus a bonus. Omid told me that his Sis' won't be at the tournament until around 2:30, what happens then, will Nilofar's points count when she returns? What would I do about my sub then, if he keeps playing, will his points and Nilofar's points count toward my clan score? I know that we'll get a lot more points next time. We got less the first day because Nick11 forgot to check in and he didn't get to play the first event of MKDD Single Player.

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i sure hope that you do better because no1 in your clan got over 400 points last time and nick got the closest out of all of you lol.
and sravan i stay up until 2 because there is nothing better to do

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hey tp2 can i visit ur website? is it on geocities or something? i want to know who is coming and who is not coming on the 24th and so far i know nilofar,anti snowman, and flare are coming anyone else? flare there are many better things to do like your homework or sleep. be cool is such a sweet movie travolta does like the best acting.
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No, the spanish thingy wasn't from any of us. It has "tortuga" in the name, which is spanish for "turtle".

Hmm, I <strong>wonder</strong> who put that up there???

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, <strong>I</strong> found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took <em>credit</em> for finding!"

Submitted by TurtlePerson2 (not verified) on Wed, 09/14/2005 - 9:31pm

I'm not pensar tortuga, but I know who is. Sravan, TC online is a turtle clan only thing. Nothing against you, but only TC members can know the web adress. I'm not listing it on any search engines so no one will find it.
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Pensar tortuga="To think turtle"<br />
which doesn't make any sense.<br /><br />
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then whats the point of a website will it have clan practice dates and stuff like that?

New Page!
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If you happened to notice BCL talks alot about science stuff and has been using a language translators so just maybe it's him that posted that.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

does every1 here take spanish? ppl who go to pioneer do u guys know a person named benjiman lehman he is in 10th grade cuz he used to go to my school.

Submitted by Sir Ducksalot on Wed, 09/14/2005 - 10:32pm

He is in my Chem. class and Leinad, Joe and I take German.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

I take Spanish, but I don't know that guy you're talking about.

Also, who all wants to be interviewed in the podcast? So far the only person I have signed up is Sravan. I was thinking we could have other people like TP2, Duck, etc. If anyone wants to do it, just let me know.

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, <strong>I</strong> found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took <em>credit</em> for finding!"

Okay, here's what I found with the Vaccinated Monks:

At the last tournament, Vaccinated Monks were represented by Duck, Evil Bus Driver, Figwit, and Super Sunflower. Their individual point totals add up to 1330, but the clan score was 1360 because in the SSB team event Duck teamed with NakedWarthog as the Vaccinated Monkeys, which was erroneously attributed to the Vaccinated Monks. So the 60 points they earned is split between them evenly for their individual scores, but the entire 60 points comes off of the Clan score, bringing it down to 1300.

I'll be double-checking other Clan scores, but let me know if you see any.

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Musicman was someone who posted up to preseason but never posted again.

I was wondering if that was being counted for the clan. Figwit left half-way though so I had to team-up with someone and he was just about the only one without a partner.

I will do an interview for the podcast.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

omid probably not cuz the pre season was like a warm up tournament to check out the competition. omid what event did u qualify in? yea thats what happened to our clan rod was flare's partner and joe was sl or fly's partner for melee and danny's partner for mario kart. have u guys seen meet the fokers that movie is so funny!
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Remember? The supirze game was madden. Omid made it inot the pirze round and was facing against me. Ugo was giving him instructions basically, telling him what buttons to push, when to push them etc. And I lost to Omid, Omid then got 2nd place.
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Remember? The supirze game was madden. Omid made it inot the pirze round and was facing against me. Ugo was giving him instructions basically, telling him what buttons to push, when to push them etc. And I lost to Omid, Omid then got 2nd place.
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Submitted by TurtlePerson2 (not verified) on Thu, 09/15/2005 - 6:38pm

I'll do a podcast, but I don't know about what. I'm not going to tell people one of my two important strategies because, it will hurt my chances of winning anything significantly. However, I can talk about basic melee and kart strats.
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Submitted by California Love on Thu, 09/15/2005 - 7:48pm

Wait, so how did Duck's clan lose 60 points? I didn't quite get what ejk said. I'm going 2 have a sub at the next tournament, does that mean we'll lose ponts if he plays with any of my clan partners in the partner games? Will his individual points count towards our clan points? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, so confusing!

"Irony makes me Lethargic"
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When it comes to season points, the simple part is individual points. It's just a total of your single player results and half of your team results (which are split between the two players).

Clan points on the other hand, are a little more complicated. For a clan to get points for a tournament, you roster up to four players, of which at least one has to be one of the clan's primary members. The points earned by these four players will be added to the clan's total. The one tricky part is that for the team events, clan points will only count if both players are on the roster for that clan.

More specifically, Duck's clan lost points because they only had 3 <strong>rostered</strong> players for the last team event, so they could only have one team that could count towards their clan total. As long as your <strong>rostered</strong> players stick together for the team events, it doesn't matter if they are primaries or subs.

Clear as mud? =)

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I think it makes sense... It just means if you have four people registered, then you have to make two teams within the four people to get maximum points right?

Yep that's how it works.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

Submitted by Galen G. on Fri, 09/16/2005 - 6:44pm

Tom, are you a Senior? Cause when Duck says that you will graduate when sravan goes to high school. Or is Duck implying something else? Cause Sravan is in eigth grade.
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Everyone in the VMC is a senior except for me.

The Nintendo revolution controller is strange but slick. I wonder how the games will play.

Posting has really died down. We need a debate or something to speculate.

Fry: "So, there’s an infinite number of parallel universes?"
Professor: "No, just the two."
Fry: "Oh, well, I’m sure that’s enough."

Everyone in the VMC is a senior except for me.

The Nintendo revolution controller is strange but slick. I wonder how the games will play.

Posting has really died down. We need a debate or something to speculate.

Fry: "So, there’s an infinite number of parallel universes?"
Professor: "No, just the two."
Fry: "Oh, well, I’m sure that’s enough."

WTF Black Shark

Fry: So, there’s an infinite number of parallel universes?
Professor: No, just the two.
Fry: Oh, well, I’m sure that’s enough.

Sorry Duck, I got bored and I decided that I wanted 2 copy and paste something.

"Irony makes me Lethargic"
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WHY, NINTENDO!! WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, <strong>I</strong> found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took <em>credit</em> for finding!"

Submitted by TheKoolAidGuy on Sat, 09/17/2005 - 12:13pm

wow u guys are right the revolution controller is weird. the ps3 one is long. its probably spain or france etc.
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Submitted by TurtlePerson2 (not verified) on Sat, 09/17/2005 - 12:40pm

Duck, you are a nintendo loyalist. It took me a while to shake off the disease, but I'm sure eventually you'll realize that nintendo won't have a light at the end of the tunnel. They are losing ground in the handheld market. They have lost almost any ground in the console market. <br /> It's because, of games like Mario Party 4-7 and other games that they put mario's face on and hope it sells. They focus too much on "innovation" (look at the controller) and to little on how to make a game a lot of fun. Look at melee.
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I would have to say that other than melee and kart the top 5 games I play most aren't by nintendo. (Melee is made by Hal anyways)
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Duck nothing against you, but the revolution controller looks stupid, not interesting.
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It's certainly a big gamble, but those who have actually used it (people from the video game media) seem really enthusiastic, so I'm remaining optomistic. I bet that it will hurt sales some since it's so unique, but I think that it will play awesomely and once word spreads, it might attract new customers.

"There is no spoon." -Neo

Submitted by TurtlePerson2 (not verified) on Sat, 09/17/2005 - 1:08pm

I just found out that you can use a conventional controller shell w/ the revolution. Good. I still don't like their weird thing. Plus the shell looks a lot like a dreamcast controller. I wonder if nintendo is trying to follow sega's excellent example.
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I'm revising the last statement by saying that without the shell it has that problem.
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Submitted by TheKoolAidGuy on Sat, 09/17/2005 - 1:13pm

tp2 what do u mean by controller shell? the only thing i'm looking for in the revolution is ssbm2 online i get to beat ppl all over the country yay.doesnt it come out fall 06? didnt eli say we should stop talking about the consules ut there is nothing else to talk about cuz there is no pre registration yet and he hasent made a post in a while. y do we still have 3840 shouldnt it be 3850?
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Submitted by TurtlePerson2 (not verified) on Sat, 09/17/2005 - 1:18pm

Nintendo claims that there will be a shell that you can put the controller in to make it look and feel like a normal controller.<br />
Go to ign to check out their theory about it<br />
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Of course the shell could be about as useful as the gamecubes internet port/adapter.
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Submitted by Sir Ducksalot on Sat, 09/17/2005 - 1:21pm

I think Eli said not to argue about stuff we don't know but courteous speculation should be fine. Oh and TP2 I'm a Sega loyalist I just prefer seeing Family friendly Nintendo prosper over Evil monopoly Microsoft and Sega Killing Sony.

Fry: So, there’s an infinite number of parallel universes?
Professor: No, just the two.
Fry: Oh, well, I’m sure that’s enough.

The Analog stick is built into the Shell sravan.

I'm pretty sure Sega is a 3rd party developer. It was bought by Sammy. The second-party developers make games for many systems. F-Zero GX, Jet Set Radio and Space Channel 5 which are all on different systems.

Fry: So, there’s an infinite number of parallel universes?
Professor: No, just the two.
Fry: Oh, well, I’m sure that’s enough.

Sravan that shell you linked to is only a mock-up nintendo hasn't released official imagery of the shell yet.

Fry: So, there’s an infinite number of parallel universes?
Professor: No, just the two.
Fry: Oh, well, I’m sure that’s enough.

I just came back from the Michigan game, we won 55-0! I wish I could watch next week's game, but Eli can't supply us a television for it. Eli, I'm just wondering, if we r the commentators, r we allowed 2 say wordsa like ass, hell, damn, SOB, etc. I just want 2 know because we'll be on TV next time.

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It would be very nice if you refrain from using those words as they might it get us in trouble. If we are caught using one of the heavy 7 we could be cut from being broadcast maybe even shut down completely. It is live T.V. and I don’t think they will be standing on there toes trying to censor us.

Fry: So, there’s an infinite number of parallel universes?
Professor: No, just the two.
Fry: Oh, well, I’m sure that’s enough.

Submitted by TheKoolAidGuy on Sat, 09/17/2005 - 6:58pm

noah u cant sware on live tv there will be children watching this what kind of a question is that. when will u use those words anyway? eli u promised u would not have another tournament on a game day thats y last year the september tournament was on a sunday.
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Submitted by TurtlePerson2 (not verified) on Sat, 09/17/2005 - 7:04pm

Duck nintendo is losing its family friendly image in my eyes. I bought my game cube because, I wasn't allowed to play teen games. However, now that nintendo has made the new zelda game Teen and has started releasing nintendo power backed (or even 1st party) M games, I think nintendo will lose that image.
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Bill Knapps tried to change their image and went under. I predict that the revolution won't be successful. The only people that will buy it are people who feel like they have to because, all they know is nintendo systems. That and parents who don't know that nintendo isn't the friendly little company anymore.
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While Microsoft is a giant (maybe monopolic) company they do treat their customers a lot better than nintendo. For example, the GBA was ready to release more than a year before the release, but nintendo was still selling GBC's quite well so it thought about it's profits before its customers. Continuous moves like that eventually made nintendo give up its spot as king of the consoles.
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I think the cube would have done better if it had more network games, Free networking, and most importantly online. Online play extends replay value. That is why nintendo didn't do it. They know they couldn't sell games as often if they had online. They are always trying to sell something even if it isn't the best they have. For example, when the cube first came out none of the games on it had good replay value (until melee a HAL game). They charged 200$ for the system then 50$ for a game that you could beat in a week.
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I know that many of you will continued to be nintendo addicts even after reading this post so I'll say one more thing,<br />
Nintendo Power is a propaganda magazine. It is designed to sell to you. Not inform you. Even worse you pay for them to advertise to you. The worst part is that you could get all of it for free if you went to their website. Never mind, that isn't the worst part the worst part is that you could get it for free from an unbiased website. <br />
If you have ever analyzed a nintendo power you'll find that they never give a nintendo game below 4 stars. (i found one exception, but it is what duck would call a 2nd party game.) Even mario party 5 which was insulted over and over again by unbiased reviewers, was given more than 4 stars. Anyone who gets NP. stop. save your money.
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One more thing. PC games are far superior to console games. Something that I find strange is that companies continue to make locked chip set consoles even though they know that no matter how great they make their console it will be obsolete in less than 2 years. Why don't companies just make a controller to plug into a computer and play console games on computer.
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The truth is that there are only 3 or 4 genres which wouldn't work on PC.<br />
Also I would have to say that I have gotten more life out of a PC game than any console game that I played for fun.
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I'm just saying that the G4 channel has swearing, I mean y can't we say PG swear words like ass, damn, or hell?

"I hate White Sharks"
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i dont know maybe its because people dont want there kids to hear swear words and that they would complain.

and TP2 if people want to play on their systems instead of there comp., let them because i personally have gotten more fun out of consoles than my P.C. So i just have to say dont be elitist because quite frankly i have more fun on my gamecube than my xbox or my PS2

"Generalizations are never true"

Submitted by TurtlePerson2 (not verified) on Sat, 09/17/2005 - 7:38pm

Flare you know that you're PC is probably more powerful than a console. Why not just have nintendo make a USB cube controller and make its games on the PC. That would be better. Of course the console companies couldn't make as much money if they did that. Also right now I am downloading a demo which I can't do on a gamecube. I have to pay for demos.
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BTW Black Shark the FCC will fine you if you use the right words, even though it is on cable. Also CTN is a local access channel. They play elementary school plays. I don't think the people that watch it want to hear swearing.
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Have you ever heard any football, basketball, baseball, etc. announcers or commentators swear on air (no!).
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Drop it.
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Submitted by TurtlePerson2 (not verified) on Sat, 09/17/2005 - 7:54pm

Sravan it is channel 17 (and a couple others). Channel 17 is a cable channel. By the way you can hook computers to a TV.
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Submitted by TheKoolAidGuy on Sat, 09/17/2005 - 8:23pm

yea my uncle did that in NYC i remember but the cord is sold seperatly. my friend used to play that now he is into MMORPGs like maple story which i heard is really weird with the 2-D graphics.
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yeah...nintendo is gonna die cuz they are trying to pull a "Bill Knapp's" and it wont work. Today i went to best buy to take back my blackandwhite iPod cuz i broke it and they dont make them in black and white any more so they gave me a brand new photo iPod instead of fixing it. YUSSSSSS!
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Just a few things
1. YOU pay many companies to get advertised to or advertise for them.

2. Do you really think that Nintendo's Image would go as low as Microsoft and Sony's. Even after RE4 it is still mainly childish. They would have to pump-out something Really Controversial to put them that low.

3. I reason to own a consol is the fact that you can get you friends together and have fun playing together. Being with people is half the fun. I have 3 computers in my house and mine is easily the fastest so in a FPS I can out play the other people simply because my computer is faster. Playing online you don’t get the fun of being with friends you get the people that yell about you being an n00b about your mother or other obscenities.

4. Plus for people that are on a budget (collage students) getting a consol is cheaper then a computer and less problematic. You know not everyone has a Mac so they could get a Virus or Trojan or installation or play errors all can make playing on a PC difficult. I have had 4 or 5 games not work until I change some preferences/equipment.

5. Microsoft isn’t releasing halo 3 until the PS3 that is basically the same tacit as Nintendo’s.

6. (Yes there is a 6.) Any given program or technology, when running, is obsolete.

7. The biggest reason I follow Nintendo over Microsoft is because they make games for the geek subculture not the main stream market.

The Rev. will be backwards compatible with GC games and you will be able to download older game all the way back to old Arcade games. I can't wait for someone to write a virus for the 360.

Fry: So, there’s an infinite number of parallel universes?
Professor: No, just the two.
Fry: Oh, well, I’m sure that’s enough.

hey duck your "just a few things #4" bothers me because that states indirectly that PCs are obsolete..... you are not a mac person are you?

and wHoA What the heck happened to nintendo, the president of nintendo must have gone haywire, the revolution (the system and the controller) looks like a friggin DVD player, augh...... i am done with nintendo,

i have had problems with them early on, for example, their early game body systems did not have a light up screen, not because of technological difficulties, it was so that they could sell some cheep wormlight for $10.

and then you have to get like the light, then the controller pack, and then the rumble pack and then like the cable that connects to another cable that connects to a light..... stupid, that is why nintendo died as consol king

Microsoft!!!!!!!!

李 治 學 loggin out

Auf Wiedersehen-

Submitted by Sir Ducksalot on Sat, 09/17/2005 - 9:47pm

I'm not a mac person is right, I'm a linux person. I am mearly pointing out with the problem with non-standardized computers with access to constantly changing and harmful data.

Fry: So, there’s an infinite number of parallel universes?
Professor: No, just the two.
Fry: Oh, well, I’m sure that’s enough.

wow u guys made 9 comments in 2 hours.
another conversation starter-
what is your least favorite course in melee? mine is mushroom kingdom I cuz of all those blocks tha annoy me so much. i got this rare phenominon where all the blocks became items and the 3 CPUs died in like 10 seconds cuz of the tiny mushroom and warp star etc. with the pc u can play with a lot of people online and u can ask ur friends to come online and better u make new friends.

o yea i hate macs so much i am so happy that my school has a pc lab and a mac lab and all the teachers try to sign up for the pc lab monthes in advance lol.

BCL what melee character did u use in the august tournament?

no word from eli yet about commentating and what not...
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The phenominon you had happens whenever you destroy a large number of blocks at once it's very easy with fox/falco's up B. My least favorite course would have to be FD. there is nothing to do there no moving tacits no shelled areas it's boring.

Fry: So, there’s an infinite number of parallel universes?
Professor: No, just the two.
Fry: Oh, well, I’m sure that’s enough.

Submitted by California Love on Sat, 09/17/2005 - 11:41pm

My least favorite is the Final Destnation stage. When u have 4 people playing, there isn't any room. No room for my stalling technics. The technique I always use is first stall, then wait until ur 1 of the last 2 fighters, that's when I kick ass. I know u think it's cowardly, but it's smart statistic strategy, a perfect alliteration.

"I hate White Sharks"
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haha u cant stall for beans. nice quote noah there is no such thing as a black shark anyway.
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alright to my understanding antisnowman, flare, and nilofar are not coming to the next tournament. so here are some predictions-

single mario kart as tp2 said will be mostly luck cuz all of us are very skilled. i will mention the top 8 but they are not nessarily in that order-me,joe,derek(they have been practicing a lot)earnest da chicken,doomblaze,tp2,duck, and leinad.

team mario kart is also sorta luck but i will say the top 8 teams. joe&derek,me&galen,leinad&tom or duck,tp2&bad driver,doomblaze and earnet da chicken, and 3 newcomer teams.

single melee the top 4. me,tp2,post, and another newcomer.

team melee the top 4. me and galen,tp2 and bad driver,post and jimmy,and 1 newcomer team.

the clan winner of that tournament is gonna be based on the suprise round and who wins that.
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Submitted by Flare on Mon, 09/12/2005 - 11:36pm.

actully i just found out that i am coming my friends bar-mitsvah is at 8 ><

I think they should tie because it would be more fair but then it would take up more time hmmmmmm... ya we should probley have them tie because that is how i think of the rules in my own little special world and no none of you are invited sorry i had to say that =P

12 more days until the tournament yay =)

"And get your feet off that blasted Samoflan. What the f*** is a Samoflan?"

dont tell me you missed that post sravan

Pr0, u didn't put me in any predictions. Eli, when is registration, and Prince Marth, if u read this before the tournament, I think Nilofar should just come and get points for her self if she gets there late, because I don't think her points will count towards our clan score if she played after she came late. I got it covered by hiring a sub, he is the one known as "SANTA", he is good at MKDD, but not as good at SSBM.

"I hate White Sharks"
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Black Shark, Sravan didn't put you in any of his predictions because, well, you're not going to win. You're actually going to do very, very badly. I'm sorry that you missed that, and that I had to be the one to tell you, but it's a well-known fact. Sorry, dude.

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, <strong>I</strong> found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took <em>credit</em> for finding!"

Thanks Tom, someone had to say it. By the way Anti-Snowman will be there. You left Mini Blin and Derek V. out of kart. BD and I won't be on a team in melee.
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"TORTURIS EXUVIAS EUNT"

but, how does tp2 know that anti snowman will be there, even anti snowman does not know if anti snowman will be there, and even if anti snowman is there he may not be playing as anti snowman......

and yes thanks tom,

李 治 學 logging out

Auf Wiedersehen-

I already did pay Santa in advance. Sravan, do u hear what these guys r saying about me? Tell them that they're wrong. 'Cause what u guys r saying is total bulls***

"I hate White Sharks"
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you suck at life black shark...i'm sorry i had to be the one to tell you this...someone had to

Flare-its 6 days until the tournament, not 12

TP2-haha you made a clan website haha

Pr0-haha TP2 made a clan website haha

C0n-we will so own

Duck-thats a malicious thing to say about someone making a virus for the 360. I hope someone makes a virus for YOU!

and one last comment: Lincoln is dead awful at sports.

Oh WAIT one FINAL comment: I like how the clan logos are on the left now cuz it looks much better.
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i was posting a post that i had posted when there were only 12 days left

black shark nick did the best out of your clan even though he missed the first event and that is sad. oh and no1 in youre clan made over 400 points; You didnt even make it in the top 32 people.I'm sorry i had to point that out to you

u are never going to use those words noah so just put a sock in it. my friend gets nintendo power i will warn him tp2.

maybe one reason not the main reason people play consule games is u have a tv so the screen is bigger and its better for ur eyes cuz u get to sit on a couch 7 feet away but in a pc game u are up close. many people have made controllers and plugged them into a controller. right now no one can beat xbox in the online consule market with xbox live because it has become so popular. tp2 that is an excellent point about family gaming and that its safe for kids. the xbox 360 is basically gonna be a computer u can browse the web,store music,photos,videos and more and u can watch dvds plus more. is the revolution backwards compatible? i know ps3 is and the 360 is limited.

CTN is on cable? since its local access i thought it wouldnt be.
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Black Shark,

I went to last week's game, and let me tell you, my sunburn was the most enjoyable part of the day (paying $60 to see Michigan turn the ball over three times inside the 10-yard line was the least). It's good to see Michigan get a little confidence going into the Big Ten season, but I'm a little scared to see which team will show up next week. Which brings me to my point...

It doesn't matter whether we can get a TV set up for it or not... the game doesn't start until 6 P.M. EDT, so everyone should be out of the building by kickoff, anyway.

/*== [:/ejk|ejk] ==*/

Yes, it does say 5:00 p.m., but it also says, "All times local to game site". Unless Winconsin has moved into the Eastern Timezone, that'll be 6:00 p.m. 'round these parts. =)

/*== [:/ejk|ejk] ==*/

here's an idea though. if you have a higher score than me at the end of the next tournament; not only will i not say anything mean about you or to you ever again, but i also will purpusfully come in last every time(only in single player events) in the tournament after that.

As pointed out by half (all) the posters (including ejk for pointing out the game time) Black shark isn't a big leage player. May I point out also Black shark that my team was completely formed of subs (that I wanted just because they are fun people) and we scored just as good as you (with one leaving in the middle) and we were playing just for fun. And yet 2 of my subs got into the prize round.

Oh and Joe my computer has had a few viruses that I have deleted. I can fix my computer unlike microsoft tech support.

Man: "Get your piping hot horse burgers horse fries, horse cakes and shakes. We got tongue, straight from the horse's mouth."
Leela: "Hmm."
Hermes: "It all sounds good."
Man: "All our horses are 100% horse-fed for that double-horse "juiced-in" goodness."
Leela: "I'll have the cholesterol-free omelet with horse-beaters."
Man: "And you, Sir? How can I horse you?"
Hermes: "I'll have a horse Coke."
Man: "Horse Pepsi okay?"
Hermes: "Nay."

flare-the comment u made about the tournament being in 12 days says it was made today at 3.
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"<em>Sravan, do u hear what these guys r saying about me? Tell them that they're wrong. 'Cause what u guys r saying is total bulls***.</em>"

I love how Black Shark can't even make his own comebacks anymore. Sravan, I pity you man. I actually have sorrow in my heart for you, that this young man actually has to ask you to tellus that we're "wrong". It breaks my heart...

*Laughs jovially*

Sorry, I couldn't keep that crap up any longer.

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, <strong>I</strong> found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took <em>credit</em> for finding!"

Ian, stop taking time in your computer class to post on these forums. It's making me think that our hard-payed tax dollars are being used to allow teenagers much like yourself to screw around during class time rather that learning something. And I <em>know</em> that <em>that</em> couldn't be true...

Also, when the Marklar is pre-registration going to start?

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, <strong>I</strong> found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took <em>credit</em> for finding!"

wait last year i thought u guys were freshman. is joe a sophmore now? the toad car and koopa car are the same status so they are basically the same its just an opinion of which looks cooler. or wait in one of leinad's posts he said seniors 06 so yea u guys are seniors.

another conversation starter-what is your least favorite course in mario kart? mine is mario circut cuz i always lose there and i mean always.

i remember at the grands last year my first race was there tp2 was in first place on the home strech then gets hit by a master shell then the pirhana hits him and someone passes him then a lightning hits him and i come in and we are right next to eachother pushing our karts but his was ahead of me so he got 2nd and i got 3rd.

duck is right we should have a debate. i cant really think of a question right now but eli and erik should tell us if we are signed up with someone not in our clan for a team event. who is going to the game tommarow? if we lose to eastern then we are in bad shape for the season.
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Submitted by tomcove6888 on Thu, 09/15/2005 - 8:00pm

Wow, a post where I'm responding to TP2 and I'm not arguing about something. This is really good.

Anywho, TP2, I won't ask you to reveal any of your strategies or anything, it'll mostly be just basic info about you, your experiences (obviously you were the Season 1 Champ, so you have that going for you), any tips you can offer n00bs, etc. Nothing to excessive. I'm not Diane Sawyer or anything.

(If any of you got that, you get a Gold Star).

Also, <strong>ALL</strong> of you should come to Pioneer's football game tomorrow night, because I am going to be in the marching band. So if you go to Pioneer, or are going to go to Pioneer, come to the football game.

And that's all I have to say about that...

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, <strong>I</strong> found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took <em>credit</em> for finding!"

Yes BCL.<br />
I had to put the stupid line breaks and the bold tags in so much that I put line breaks on the clip board. I know that it would have been quicker to use MS word, but it wouldn't have been nearly as much fun.
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BCL what is you and Padouk's team called I need it for TC online.

i don't know, how about MK masters for starters
by the way, do you really expect snowman and darth marth to accomplish anything

李 治 學

Auf Wiedersehen-

<em>"I know that it would have been quicker to use MS word, but it wouldn't have been nearly as much fun."</em>

And we all know that anything dealing with computers has to be repetitive, torturous, and boring, right?

*DA-DUM* *CRASH!!!!*

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, <strong>I</strong> found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took <em>credit</em> for finding!"

Wait, mine? Or BCL's?

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, <strong>I</strong> found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took <em>credit</em> for finding!"

It's some secondary team of Turtle Clan's, methinks.

Also, totally out of curiosity, Sravan, where do you go to school?

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, <strong>I</strong> found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took <em>credit</em> for finding!"

GRYPHONS REPRESENT(greenhills). i used to go to slauson but i hated it. i might go to pioneer for high school though

Submitted by tomcove6888 on Thu, 09/15/2005 - 8:29pm

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, <strong>I</strong> found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took <em>credit</em> for finding!"

Submitted by TheKoolAidGuy on Thu, 09/15/2005 - 9:22pm

im gonna start a conversation. what is your favorite character and kart combination in mario kart? we use random combos at the tournaments anyway. mine is paratroopa and toad in the toad kart(paratroopa is the red shell guy who can fly). i like them mainly cuz of their items.
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Submitted by TurtlePerson2 (not verified) on Thu, 09/15/2005 - 9:26pm

Sravan mine is two koopas in the green koopa car. That is just for show though. For racing I put parakoopa and baby mario (color coordinating) in the trophy kart.
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Tom I was responding to BCL's comments about some of the TC 2 members.
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Submitted by Sir Ducksalot on Thu, 09/15/2005 - 9:29pm

Tom you'll have graduated when sravan goes to pioneer.

Now black shark The reason MY clan lost 60 points is because I teamed-up with someone outside my clan for an event this person and myself both had those points going toward the clan which was an error. This happened because you of my subs left half way though and I had no one to team up with.

My favorite MKdd combo is luigi & yoshi in the green fire. I like green if you can't tell.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

Submitted by Sir Ducksalot on Mon, 09/19/2005 - 3:05pm

Pre-registation is up. I registered with beebles for the team event Tom and Leinad.

Fry: So, there’s an infinite number of parallel universes?
Professor: No, just the two.
Fry: Oh, well, I’m sure that’s enough.

What be your team name?

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, <strong>I</strong> found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took <em>credit</em> for finding!"

Submitted by Sir Ducksalot on Mon, 09/19/2005 - 4:01pm

Right it be De "Inoculated nuns" Argg.

Fry: So, there’s an infinite number of parallel universes?
Professor: No, just the two.
Fry: Oh, well, I’m sure that’s enough.

OMFG 20 NEW COMMENTS.

a lot of things to say.
1. black shark tom had the guts to tell u off and u gotta tell him back im not gonna fight ur fights for u and u are the only new player that hasent won a prize in the mkdd and melee tournaments that posts on this blog.
2. if u wanna watch the game at the tournament so much then just dont go to the tournament noah and thomas said u were bragging about axis to other kids at tappan...
3.i thought anti snowman wasent coming tp2 so i paired u up with ur brother for the team events.
4. pirate day is so stupid i hate it so much at least ppl get to wear a bandana to school lol.
5.yes joe we are gonna rock ur socks in the next tournament
6.i didnt know miniblin would come otherwise he would probably be in the top 8 for mario kart single cuz he is very good at racing he came in 1st at the grands for racing(joe should have but those serious of unfortunate events at bowser's castle)
7.noah u think u are good at melee cuz u stall so much with DK against the comuters well NEWS FLASH we arent playing CPUs at the tournament we are playing humans with brains who wont go do a SD(well most them atleast).
8.noah u get so lucky in mario kart somehow but when u get into the elimination rounds u screw up cuz u are playing the top players and u NEVER POWER SLIDE DID ANYONE KNOW THAT? IF HE CANT DO THAT THEN HE DOESNT MINI TURBO*crowd gasps*
9.flare do u have a clan?
10.noah i did not mean to insult u or hurt ur fellings in anyway possible.
11.joe did u pre register cuz there are gonna be limited walk-ins i belive. and joe just to double check me and galen will be on a team for mario kart and melee right? should our team name be the troublemonkeys2?
12.Conversation starter-who is better pichu or pikachu? i would have to say pikachu cuz he doesnt do damage to himself and he weighs more even though they are the same speed and pichu is more powerful. it would be funny to beat someone at the tournament with pichu.
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