Portrait Of 2 Demonstrators: Idealistic, Biased, Bewildered

Two University undergraduates who were followers, not leaders, in last night's campusto-downtown march displayed a mixture of idealism, bewilderment, plain lack of facts and some dogmatic prejudice when informally interviewed on the fringes of the melee in front of City Hall. The two are a coed who said she is especially interested in psychology ("We've been studying something called dominance theory, you know, where you see who can get in the last word, or be the last one to use a club") and a male history major ("What's going on here resembles absolutely nothing that's ever happened b e f o r e " ) . They chatted at length while standing on the N. Fifth Ave. sidewalk af ter being turned away by the perimeter guard of pólice and deputies ringing City Hall. Asked why they joined a ■march of this sort, both said they were anxious to protest the trial completed earlier yesterday of the "Chicago 7" who were found guilty of crossing state lines to incite violence. Neither, however, could identify the name Thomas Hayden. The coed said she did not recognize it, and the male student suggested that Hayden is "a professor" somehow connected vith the Chicago trial. Hayden, :one of the "Chicago for a Democratie Society and an editor of the U-M student paper, the Michigan Daily, while a U-M student in the early 1960s. He was a main "moratorium" speaker at the U-M last Oct. 15. Both, particularly the history major, voiced a strong belief that pólice in Ann Arbor and throughout the nation are being misused, perhaps against their personal wishes, by a repressive "network" of which the courts are a major arm. "The purpose of pólice is to catch thieves. Somewhere it was discovered they can be useá for repressing the people. I would guess that most of the pólice here now would just as soon be home," said the history student. Asked if he had been personally repressed last night, he said, "Yes, I'm being repressed right now. I can't go in that building (City Hall). It's a public building . . . The city seems to have given it to the county tonight." He said he has no objection to the fact that city offices other than the Pólice Department close at 5 p.m., I meaning all but the building's I first floor were locked at the time of the conversation, at 10:30 p.m. Both students said they were fully aware that the march was closely monitored by several pólice agencies from its inception (frequent radio reports on location, direction and window breakage were received in Chief Walter E. Krasny's office). Y e t b o t h maintained that the crowd was totally surprised by the presence of lines of pólice squads in the City Hall parking lot when the crowd reached E. Huron. "The pólice are uptight," the y o u n g man said. ''They shouldn't have been set off like I that by a few puny rocks. The pólice carne armed. The people were not rrmed. Maybe they could have just talked. We're not armed, and we're standing here in the cold having a long conversation." He said he finds "nothing wrong'' with curb-to-curb marches down major streets, I at least occasionally, because "you can't do a protest demonstration in cars." DemonstraI tions throughout the nation in recent years, particularly those in Washington, D.C., last f all, were "important, because they taught the people how to link arms and maren," he added. The coed speculated that one major reason for joining mass marches is a feeling by many U-M students that "they are intelligent, they are not just concerned with little things. They feel different from the man on the street." The history major suggested that "a saving grace" for the pólice last night was the fact that "most of the people don't know this is going on. People are going to the movies down that block and people are sitting in the bars over there." Both singled out Sheriff Douglas J. Harvey as a target for dislike. 'Tve never, never, heard a student say a flattering I word about Harvey," said the coed. She added: "I just transferred here, so I don't really know the local officials " The history student said, 'Tve never met the man, wouldn't know him if I saw him."